Bullfrog Snot?

AB&CRRone Dec 9, 2008

  1. skipgear

    skipgear TrainBoard Member

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    I don't believe that this is a cure-all product but I can think of a few loco's that this may be just the trick for. Time will tell.
     
  2. GeNscale

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    I have a question. How do you put a steamer and tender upside down and apply power to turn the wheels? I've turned them upside down and placed them in a cradle but how /where do you apply the power to get wheels to turn?
     
  3. mtntrainman

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    I just use a 9V battery touched across the 2 wheels on the same axle...JMO


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  4. rdgnut

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    I have a test station. Bought a spare MRC Throttle Pack at the auction site, and a set of aligator clip test leads from Radio Slack. Clip them to the tender wheels or the side frames of a diesel or wherever you can give it juice. Then control your wheel speed and direction. Hold the loco in a foam lined box they come in.

    The test station is a workbench essential. Allows you to trouble shoot, do tune-ups, etc. Low voltage DC. Touch the leads together and see a spark, you know you have juice.

    Or you can use the test clips and power from your track, but that gets a bit clumsy.

    When you apply BULLFROG SNOT let the engine run while it cures so the result is a nice round tire. It cures down to .0055" thin.

    Bill
     
  5. jdcolombo

    jdcolombo TrainBoard Member

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    1. Buy pack of mini-alligator clips from Radio Shack
    2. Connect a 6-inch piece of flexible 24 or 26 gauge wire between two clips. Then do it again so that you have two wires with alligator clips at each end.
    3. Clip one end of one of the wires to the LH rail; clip the other end to a wheel on the LH side of the front tender truck; clip the end of the other wire to the RH rail and then to a wheel on the RH side of the truck.
    4. Turn on power.

    John C.
     
  6. rdgnut

    rdgnut TrainBoard Member

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    Powered tenders, box cars, baggage cars, etc. would be great. But ... they'd be good for only one train at a time. Likely about $75.00 each if they were available on the market (I tried to make one). Whatever you made someone would want something else. They'd be a pain to adapt, as locos vary in running speeds and pulling power, etc.

    I've found that most of what we have now works great once it gets a grip.

    Bill
     
  7. Powersteamguy1790

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    With DCC, powered boxcars can easily be speed matched to any locomotive.
     
  8. rdgnut

    rdgnut TrainBoard Member

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    DCC

    Ah, true. I'm an old school DC guy (and 100's of engines and wasn't about to switch). So then, we add another $25 to the cost of each powered boxcar?
     
  9. GeNscale

    GeNscale TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks for the suggestions on powering a belly up loco.
     
  10. sootower

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    Why so high?

    Then there's the question, "Why are your shipping charges($5.95 - $6.50) so high?"

    A one ounce bottle of your product can be airmailed to anywhere in the USA (including Alaska or Hawaii) for less than $2.00 which includes postage, the cost of the bottle, the box, and packing materials.
     
  11. mtntrainman

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    $2.00???

    I wanna live where you do...the cost of living aint hit Mayberry yet?

    I bought and sold on ebay for a long time (not that Bill is using ebay calculations for non ebay shipping)...and there is NO WAY you can get postage, the cost of the bottle, the box, and packing materials for a one oz bottle shipped for $2.00. Nope...sorry JMO


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  12. Grey One

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    The issue behind the cost of shipping is that it needs to include the cost of shipping meaning postage etc - and - handling, meaning labor.
     
  13. Calzephyr

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    He'll be waiting for your next product...

    Electro-frog Snot! Bullfrog Snot with electrical conductivity!!! Hey Bill... I want royalties when you create it... ;)
     
  14. Westfalen

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    That would be the holy grail of N scale, electrically conductive traction tires. Imagine what that Big Boy would pull with TTs on all 16 drivers! Could it be done along the same lines as conductive paint?
     
  15. sootower

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    Can the off topic posts!

    If you want to argue off topic subjects, start a new thread. One Trainboard staff member contributing nothing but off topic messages is enough distraction on this thread.

    And if you read half as many threads/messages as you post, you'd know the answer to your questions(above)....
     
  16. mtntrainman

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    Sorry if I seem to have stepped on your toes. But if you want to argue semantics...your reply about the cost of shipping has absolutely nothing to do with the original question posted either. I had no question...I was simply commenting on your obvious misunderstanding of the cost of shipping. FYI...I read EVERY post and reply here at TrainBoard. This is a FORUM...I can and will reply to any thread I so choose TYVM and have a nice day.


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  17. nlombardi

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    Do you put it on just one wheel or two. If just on one, does it screw up balance on a steam engine?
     
  18. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    My Lord, please lighten up! If we can't have some fun here talking about Bullfrog Snot, and its application to the paws of Labradors, where else can we have fun? Trainboard is, after all, for fun; as a staff member and admin, I'll make fun whenever I please. My Stupid Mistakes are fun, although they could also be ranked as distractions from perfect discussions of model railroad topics.

    Over the years I've published a number of serious articles on railroad forums. These have included calculating the tractive effort of steam locos, or the ten problems affecting wheels, or the reason why steam locos hummed four times around a loop. That latter was due to a calculation of the differences in rail diameter, and I conclusively proved the equation regulating this phenomenon.

    If you think any of the above is serious, please email me for a rather stern correction. This is all fun, for heaven's sakes. We'll see if Bullfrog Snot works; otherwise this thread is great publicity for its maker.

    And that's fun again.
     
  19. sootower

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    message of Appreciation

    Never having studied the statistic, I have to guess that fewer than 50% of my trains have a boxcar first in line. Adding long yard pulls to the equation, that percentage would fall even more. I've considered rostering a couple powered boxcars but feel they're about as impractical as "transition coupler" cars(Rapido on one end, Magne-Matic on the other). Your new product, BullFrog Snot has been a long-needed tool for n scalers - At least for those interested in modeling/operation pre 1955. Thank you for the time you've spent developing it, and the time spent answering questions in this thread.

    I still have minor concerns over shelf life(will it degrade in the bottle from exposure to light?), track contact-surface contamination, and wear.

    While a review in Model Railroader magazine would have given you better exposure, I trust their product reviews far less than postings to a couple of the N scale forums.

    Best of luck with this venture!
     
  20. SteamDonkey74

    SteamDonkey74 TrainBoard Supporter

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    Sootower,

    If you know a way he can package and ship and cover all his costs for $2.00 per order, I suggest that you contact the producer/supplier in a PM and explain how to do it, or if you can stay a little more succinct than in this last post (Since removed), go ahead and put it here for the improvement of all small suppliers in the N scale world.

    Thanks,
    Adam
     
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