Serious question. I never heard of this. Anyone tried it? Testimonials? [ame="http://www.amazon.com/BULLFROG-SNOT-Universal-Plastic-Traction/dp/B001NG2ECC/ref=sr_na_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1228862663&sr=1-2"]Amazon.com: BULLFROG SNOT Universal Liquid Plastic Traction Tires: Toys & Games[/ame] Ben
Remind me not to hire that advertising agency for product naming :lightning: Hopefully they won't get into the model train business... I can imagine them begin marketed as "Slime-Suckers" BTW... I've never used it... but that testimonial posted in NScale Community is very interesting. I wonder how long it stays on the wheels before rubbing off... and if it creates any contact problems on the track as it wears off.
"Extracted from the suffering sinuses of free-range male frogs as fast as our wranglers can round em up and herd em in." :tb-shocked:
Only one satisfied customer coupled with the price doesn't inspire me. If the price tag was closer to $10 I might be tempted. I assume the stuff is painted on to the driver which requires some talent. My LifeLike 2-8-8-2 would be the only possible use for me and there are a lot of drive rods to contend with on the geared driver. If anyone here gives it a try, let us hear about it. Ben
BULLFROG SNOT Hi, I'm the source of BULLFROG SNOT. Have any questions? It goes on with a toothpick. One drop to a rotating driver. Cures thin and almost invisible in minutes. Put a grippy tire just where you want it. Comes off with an Xacto knife if you want to remove it - tune for optimum placement. One jar contains 100s of tires, so the price is a bargain. My test train is pulling 75 cars on level with a LL 2-8-8-2. Could do more but the train pulls apart. The MP 4-4-0 will pull 35 empty hoppers on level. It's tough and last quite a while. When does it wear out? I don't yet know. Eval samples are available, limited qtys. Regards, Bill RDGNUT
Bob, I works great for the 2-6-6-2. That's been one of the test engines. Becomes the freighter you'd want it to be. Bill
Bill, Thanks for jumping in here and explaining it, and welcome to Trainboard! I take it that it is some sort of traction tire replacement? Adam
Here's my question - How well does it work in situations where the wheels are already grooved for traction tires if your old traction tires wear out and you decide to switch to Bullfrog Snot? I am thinking specifically of Kato's GS-4 if it makes a difference in the answer. Thanks, Adam
I think you'd sell a lot more in much smaller quantities.I'd like to try it,but at 36 bucks shipped,that's WAY more than I'm willing to spend on something I may try once and throw it in a drawer.Even if I did love the stuff,and even with my 400+ locos,I only have maybe 15 I'd use it on..It would dry up and die long before I'd use even 1/4 of it..
Welcome to Trainboard I don't have a problem with the price. If you look at either a very old steamer that slips and slides, or the first and second runs of MP Pacifics or Mikados, without TT's, this product seems to be a natural. I have a total of five or six of the Pacifics and Mikados that look great, run great, but can't pull more than three cars and a caboose around a 9 3/4" radius or a 2% grade that I would love to have on my layout other than sticking out of engine sheds or repair shops.
Well,my point is,36 bucks is a lot of cash for a lifetime supply of something that,by it's very nature,will probably dry out in a few years.VERY few people will spend that much on it,even if it IS great stuff.[So far,the only testimonial I've seen is by the guy that sells it..] I'd spend 10 bucks or so to get a reasonable amount,just don't see any need for a full ounce.Really,how many wheel surfaces could you completely paint with a bottle of floquil black?probably thousands..I mean,really,do you WANT to hafta spend that much on a new bottle every time it dries out?
"Bob, I works great for the 2-6-6-2. That's been one of the test engines. Becomes the freighter you'd want it to be. Bill" I would happily be a guinea pig (test frog?) for a eval. sample. I think I'm a logical pick. If I can install it o.k. ANYONE can apply it I'll be happy to announce my results here. If my 2-6-6-2 responds well, I'll even be willing to demo it at our next NTrak show in January, with a tent card in a gondola indicating "Traction by Bullfrog Snot". Did I win?
I've added BULLFROG SNOT tires to the CC 2-10-2. Tested on the MP 4-4-0, LL 2-8-8-2 (hardwire the tender to the engine), B-Mann Lt 4-8-2, 2-8-0 and 2-6-6-2, Atlas FM, TM, RSD, Intermtn FP-7, Kato F's and Mikados. Improved them all. Consider the cost of TT'd driver sets, or of just new rubber bands (if you can find them), and the effort required to make the change, BULLFROG SNOT is like magic. And you can add a tire wherever you want it in minutes, and remove it with equal ease. Some tuning is required to determine optimum placement, and yes some electrical contact gets away, but not significant. Even if you fix only a few engines, the result is worth it. I have not tried this yet, but I suspect old rotted rubber band tires can be tossed and with some creative epoxy or putty work the grooves filled and BULLFROG SNOT applied over the fill. I have a 9' x 12' duckunder dedicated room, two levels, many height transitions in hidden areas with too tight curves, model transition era anthracite country. Been at it since 1970. New models are really nice but too dang slippery - like the new Centuries (I resold mine on ebay before I BULLFROG SNOT'd them) or the 2-8-4. The traction issue bugged me, so I tinkered. Sacrificed a few patients along the way too. I am pleased with the result. I suspect that BULLFROG SNOT will become one of those essential items for any serious N-scalers workbench. Bill
Bill , how long have you exactly run the applied locos . My concern is that there is no groove there to inhibit walk off ? Have you ever thrown a ring O snot off an applied wheel , as wheels are slightly conical ? What about that application and it not being truly equal all around ? Is that hard to avoid ? Fix ? Can you make it clear or black ?