As I read the threads here, I hear the same old gripes about the current pre-order system used by a number of manufacturers. Some here even insisting that they will never pre-order anything again. But is that really a reasonable stand to take when pre-orders are what determine what will be produced or not? Now I can understand the feeling that some have been burned in the past. But the reality of the current economic climate means manufacturers aren’t going to take risks or stick their necks out without some indication that a particular project will be a success. How do they gauge this interest? The ball really is in our court. A few weeks ago I posted a thread asking was "Demand Weak" for IM’s ATSF Slogan 1937 AAR Box Cars? This was a set of box cars announced well over 2 years ago by Intermountain Railway. It really surprised me that, with all of the Santa Fe love around here, that an Intermountain rep would say that, due to a lack of interest, “demand was weak” and the project was postponed. Who’s fault is that? When there was genuine, ample, interest in a product, and pre-orders bore this out, the manufacturers have come through. But is it their fault if an announced product appears to make no ripple in the purchasing chain and they back out of a possible losing proposition? The trouble is, we can’t whine about the pre-order system on the one hand, and then complain that the manufacturers aren’t giving us what we want on the other. As long as the pre-order system is the means by which they gauge interest then we are only shooting ourselves in the foot by not supporting it.