Alan asked a question over on the articulated thread about an engine on a flat car behind the 3985. That brings up a question. I know the Mt. Emily Shay got to Railfair 99 on a flatcar behind the 4449, shipped from Prineville to Sacramento. How did the Graham County 1925 get there? On a flat car behind the UP steamers? I can't imagine a Shay travelling across the USA on it's own power!
Fits, Good question.... It would take forever to cross the country on its own power!!!!! HA I imagine it did make the trip on a flat car..... I can't see it any other way...
I couldn't stand it and asked Jim Wrinn of Spencer Shops how 1925 got there. He said on HTTX 97425, a 70-ton flat car, via NS and UP, Asheville, Knoxville, Louisville, St. Louis, North Platte, Cheyenne and Roseville. (sounds like a verse from "I've been everywhere, man".) John, that's a nice shot of Prineville's own running onto the turntable at Railfair '99.
This one's a logger's dream. Shot at Mt. Rainier Scenic railfan day in 1998 by Dale Brown (much better than the one I got),, it features Pickering 3-truck Shay 11, Kinzua Pine 3-truck Heisler 91, Hillcrest Lumber 3-truck Climax 10, Hammond Lumber 2-8-2T 17 and Cowlitz, Chehalis and Cascade 2-8-2 15, ALL hauling the railfan special. See what fun we have available here in the northwest?
I'm just about out of Shays, but here is the Lowville and Beaver River No. 8 at Steamtown's Grand Opening, 1995.
Ok, since we're on the topic of Shay's I wanted to pose this question. On another thread I posted a question about the train in Back to the Future Part III. I was directed to Rail Town which has pictures of the train used in the movie and other famous movies and TV. My question is, is the photo found in BTTF III a Shay?
Jason, no, the locomotive in BTF III was not a Shay. I have seen the movie and should know off the top of my head which of the Jamestown locos was used. I'm pretty sure it was No. 3, a 4-6-0 or "Ten-Wheeler". No. 3 has been in many movies.
The Shay was the most common type of geared locomotive. Lima built about 2,770 between 1880 and 1944. The other two common types were Heisler and Climax. Here is an unusual Meadow River Lumber Company 3 truck Heisler #6. It was still active at Rainelle, West Virginia in 1955. Thanks to John B. Allen, who took this photo, we can enjoy this old timer today! Heisler engines had twin cylinders mounted in a "V" position that drove a centrally located longitudinal drive shaft skew geared to the outer axles of each truck. The inner axles were rod driven. Heisler Locomotive works of Erie, Pennsylvania built more than 600 geared locomotives between 1891 and 1941. One of the smallest American geared engines was this tiny Climax built in 1910 that is part of the collection of the British Columbia Provincial Museum. Like the Heisler, it is driven by a centrally located drive shaft. The arrangement of the cylinders is easily seen in the photo by Jay Lentzner, below. The Climax Manufacturing Company of Corry, Pennsylvania built about 1,100 geared locomotives between 1888 and 1928. The most common type generally appeared like this engine #2 below. The New York Central had some that looked like box cars with the flywheels extending below the floor, and had windows for the engineer, some towed a coal tender behind. [ 23 July 2001: Message edited by: watash ]</p>
Watash, I'm glad someone had something of the Heislers, and Climaxes. I didn't know of any online..... I do like the picture of the heisler you posted. nice one man And also the lil Climax on the flat car.. i'm sure it didn't "climb" onto that car itself.. HA!
John, that little #2 on the flat car looks almost small enough to run on "G" scale track. Actually, they did lay a rail ramp and run the little tyke up onto the flat with a winch I think. Maybe from the museum can tell us for sure?
You guys have driven me back to the photo archives. Here are two taken in 1994, one of the Sunkist Climax No. 3 at Pomona Fairgrounds, LA, and the other of Georgetown Loop RR Shay No. 12 running around the train at Georgetown, CO.
Fitz, Nice ones man!!! I like the Climax picture, and of coarse the Shay... If ya got 'em post 'em. we all want to see 'em! HA!
Jim Even the MIGHTY New York Central had Shays! Post one for 'em on the forum,Jim. By the way "ironman",what is the latest on the Yreka and Western? I haven't heard much of late.
Ron, I'd love to post a shot of a NYC Shay, but can't find one. Even asked George Elwood and he doesn't have any, not does Gary Steuben. They say the only place they have seen one is in Al Staufer's NYC Power books. BTW, how do you like my little Hudson in the signature?
If I recall correctly, the NYC shays were like the Union Freight Railroad Climaxes in Boston, encased in a "boxcab" type body. They were used on Manhattan Island and were preceded by a crewman on horseback. The line involved, the West Side freight line, was removed from the streets by the 1920's I believe. So they were gone before any railfans were around to photograph them.
Jim I like your litle Hudson. Go to ..railroad.net/lima/nycshay.html ..railroad.net/graphics/lima/1897_2.jpg The Lima or the shay geared site has more on the NYC Shays,they had six. There are quite a few photos of them around.
Here is the picture that Ron (Hudsonut1) referred to, from railroad net. NYC indeed did hide their Shays in boxcabs.
