Ok here it goes. I have yet to build a complete layout. I have finally convinced my wife to let me build a 4x8 ft layout, and have came up with a track plan that I honestly like. Only issue is, I am not sure if it will fit. This layout looks a bit congested to say the least. Most of the congestion is actually hidden within the mountain. The mountain areas are shaded grey. There is a lumber mill will a mill pond next to the river, and I will also have a mine, city/town area, turntable, roundhouse, lumber operations in the mountain, rural town(s) throughout the mountain as well. This layout is meant to incorporate everything I love about the railroad. Turntables and roundhouses have always facinated me. Logging has also been one of the things I have loved when watching trains or videos. To be honest, my layout is inspired by John Allen's Gorre&Daphetid. That is what got me into model railroading. I saw the book at the library one day, checked it out and fell in love. This layout is basically taking the room I have and incorporating what I can to "emulate" what he accomplished. Please tell me what you think and any and all input is greatly appreciated.