From Rochelle IL and doing Whitcomb Research

machinehead61 Jun 13, 2012

  1. cn854

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    Great thread going on here about those Army Whitcomb's, as for the previous post, those pages were taken out of R. Tourret's book entitled "Allied Military Locomotives of the Second World War", a great book on Allied WWII military locomotives.


    http://www.tourretpublishing.com/AlliedMilitaryLocomotivesOfWW2.htm



    Another book that has some interesting Whitcomb WWII pictures is DeNevi & Hall's "UNITED STATES MILITARY RAILWAY SERVICE"

    http://www.alibris.com/United-States-Military-Railway-Service-America-s-Soldier-Railroaders-in-WWII-Don-DeNevi/book/23553467



    Mark Perry
     
  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    This has been a fantastic topic. I never dreamed there could be so much data on this manufacturer.
     
  3. cn854

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    Three interesting Whitcomb photos for your viewing pleasure.



    Longmoor Military Railway 71232 in the UK in 9-49


    First train into Rome 7-44


    Close up side view of a USATC Whitcomb in Europe in WWII




    LMR 71232 TOBRUK 9-49.jpg USA whitcomb Rome 7-44.jpg USA Whitcomb.jpg
     
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    HO scale brass Hallmark US ARMY Whitcomb 65 ton

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    WD 890 on the Longmoor Military Railway 3-55


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  6. machinehead61

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    Unbelievable the quality of the photo of the first train into Rome. Where on earth did you find it and THANK YOU !!!

    Steve
     
  7. BoxcabE50

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    The third view showing that bell is a great detail shot.
     
  8. cn854

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    A 5x7 B&W neg recently sold on Ebay but I was not the successful bidder.....
     
  9. BoxcabE50

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    Slightly OT- Any history on the Longmoor Military Railway?
     
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    USA 7981.jpg USA 7987.jpg USA 8810.jpg


    Three photos from the Tourret book ALLIED MILITARY LOCOMOTIVES OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR


    USA 7981 in Germany in 4-45

    USA 7987 being loaded on a ship in the UK bound for France, in the summer of 1944

    USA 8810 at the Hoover Dam in Nevada in 1950
     
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    The LMR was a training railway for the British Army, it was finally closed in the late 60's. They had two USA Whitcombs that had seen prior service in the Middle East during WWII. WD 890 "Tobruk" and 891 "Algiers", both were scrapped by 1957.
     
  12. BoxcabE50

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    Interesting. I had not known the British kept such facilities ongoing, that long after WWII.
     
  13. machinehead61

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    Does Tourret cite his sources for anything in his book? I have a shared copy of a chapter (61) on Whitcombs that has zero sources cited.

    My research has shown many false claims about Whitcomb and I am a stickler about documentation.

    Steve
     
  14. cn854

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    Sorry no idea, what have you found to be false?

    Mark
     
  15. machinehead61

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    Nothing from Tourret that I know of but he dug this information up from some where and he should have stated where.

    As I write my history I will document just about every sentence so anyone who cares can verify everything for themselves. I have chased down so many false claims that I intend not to do the same for any future researcher.

    Steve
     
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    Just found this photograph. The first color photo of a Whitcomb from WW II.


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    "Brig. Gen. Carl R. Gray, Director Gen. of Allied Military Railroad Division shakes hands with Col. Charles Poletti, A.M.G. Commissioner on arrival of first train at Rome since Allied occupation. July 4, 1944 "


    I am trying to contact the forum member to find where this came from. I found it in this forum:


    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5990908&postcount=17552




    Steve
     
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  19. BoxcabE50

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    Interesting to see it sitting under catenary. I wonder when electrified operations were restored? Probably took a while to patch that up.
     
  20. machinehead61

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    I didn't even notice the wires overhead. I believe that there was no electricity in Rome after the Germans left. The Nazis destroyed the power generation before retreating and the Allies brought in generators and the first train had a load of coal for power.

    Steve
     

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