I was wondering if there is any interest in folks into logging to get together through email to discuss logging issues? Maybe no one would like to, just a thought. Railnut
We would prefer seeing discussions here. You never know who might develop an interest after reading, after all!
There are no sigs anymore, but, if ya want, we'll see if anyone shows any interest. Probably won't be much. We can do it here easy enough.
I model the NorthWestern Pacific. Pretty much the entire reason that the NWP existed is because of lumber so I also model the lumber industry. This is something I would be interested in, but not something that I currently have anything to share with the group. Just wanted to say I will be paying attention to this topic...
Could well happen within scale forums or the Inspection Pit, and probably Narrow Gauge would be a good place?
As with you, I also do not model them. But they were important to my home town's history. And also very big in developing my region. So I do have serious interest.
I started in N scale logging in 1975, and if you think N scale is lonely..... I think I was the only one trying anything then. Eastern logging is a heck of a lot different from western, smaller and older equipment, smaller logs, most big shows shut down in the depression. Climax quit building in 1928. So even logging is not just logging.... I model eastern logging 1925; Wheeler & Dusenbury, Endeavor, PA But we also had probably the last dedicated "logging unit train" in the US as late as 2001 - the HPA-symbol Lock Haven, PA to Erie, PA paper and log train over Conrail, Allegheny Railroad, and a short span under NS power. You won't find many photos as it only ran at night, unless it was delayed by an incident, but it typically ran with six GP38-2's and about 40-50 cars of mixed pulp, chip cars, and 100-ton log cars - chips and logs headed west, pulp headed east. I think it may have been the last common-carrier all wood train in the US and was written up in TRAINS. Sale of Hammermill to International Paper ended both the mills and the trains. Westbound loaded log trains hit the steep hill at Kane, so excess power was always the rule. International Paper sent the log cars mostly down south, but they were last seen still in HPAX reporting marks. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3877625 Chip cars: http://xn--hansjrgbrutzer-zpb.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=993802 I do miss the sound of six GP38's hitting the grade at Run 8 out of Warren with the loaded pulp train headed east.
Sounds fun but I don't have a large enough railroad to put any kind of high end set up for logging- mine is three sections of 3ft x 8ft's in a U shape, since my are in the garage is limited I wanted to go with a number of industries so my small lumber mill which I am in the process of working on now at the end of one of the 3x8 sections with mountain and scenery where I have 2 levels of a horse shoe type curve going around it. It has a few spurs to the mill and that's about it. Mainly set up for fun and not a hard core logging outfit due to small layout. Real nice idea you have.
I bought a real nice video from Green Frogand love it. It showcases several men's logging layouts and has helped me with what i plan on buikding. Tite, LOGGING RAILROADS, modeling the prototype. Approxamate 57 minutes, order # CP 072
To all of you who have contributed, thanks, ive enjoyed what you've said. WFOo Jeff, it would be nice to see pictures of your lumber mill set up. I don't care personally if your layout has or hasn't room for serious logging , at least you're doing some modeling. Thanks guys.
I'm a big fan of the local Northwest logging railroads around my area, like Weyerhauser's Vail line to Southbay, the White River Lumber Co. out of Enumclaw, the Curtis Milburn & Eastern/Chehalis Western, etc!! Discussions would be cool to always learn more.
Here are some pics in stages up to today, it's not easy to tell but there is a logging truck road coming out of mill and up over mountains. Water feature will have a river out of mountains down towards mill and exits out opposite side down a river to where twin bridges are.
Well, this first pic is about the second day of my new railroad just after framing the 3 sections and bolting together- I started around December 28th 2016. And next pic as of today sectioning the foam for the mountainous area around the Lumber Mill. I use that dark green base coat paint to help when I do the scenery-I found that darker contrast work well for me when I start air brushing and adding detail.
I like what you're doingt. On the bottom picture is that a hidden staging yard on the left, or just a tunnel? It's going to be nice. Please keep progress pictures coning,
It sounds like the railroad operations on your layout are already in trouble. Once the logging trucks start, trains are usually the first casualty...
The Bottom left is a tunnel goes around and behind to the right - 2 tracks 2 heights. 1 is ground level all the way around the entire U shape layout and the other inclines about 3 inches at highest point. This is the only staging at the mill The tunnel originally was going to be horseshoe type curves until I decide to stick the lumber mill on this end then I had to come up with mountains-water and tunnels, this is outer end access looking in.