YouTube app on my phone still has a search feature, I can't imagine the computer version doesn't. What video are you looking for? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Boxcab, I think they are still there, next trip up that way I'll stop by and see. The Southwest Timber company owned the pulp mill but sold it. Nothing has been town down. A lot of pulp wood and tank cars are still parked by the yard buildings.
the Alcos are probably still there. The whole operation is shut down, the pulp mill sits idle, so the railroad just sits.
Grab some popcorn. Here's the 1930s film on the Schafer Bros operation out of Montesano. Enjoy! Check out that sexy beast of a machine at about 11:10.
My maternal grandfather worked for Schafer Bros. Just a couple of years before he passed away, we took a drive down that way and did some exploring.
Apache Railroad still operates for remaining customers. About 2x weekly. Alcos are still there and the railroad is in the process of being sold. There are redevelopment plans and the pig farm (big customer) is supposedly expanding.
I live just 15 miles from Snowflake...which is where the Apache Railroad was based. Last I heard about a year ago...when the railroad closed the Alco's where sold to a railroad in Illinois. I havent been out Snowflake way in awhile. I think I might drive out and check out Apaches old shops...see whats left.
On 'Zoom Earth' it still shows the Alcos parked on the North tracks just outside the shop. Then again...how old are those satalite images...hmmmm. https://zoom.earth/#34.493497,-110.314343,17z,sat
Logging railroads were the epitome of Penny Pinchers. They didn't get government grants to build their lines. You can make your log landing spurs single. Many had landings right on the "mainline". Or consider hiding half your roundy loop (the staging half) and put the log landing on a elevated branch line, unless you don't want to deal with grades which is understandable. I do understand the desire to have trains just run around btw, and will sacrifice prototype design to have a loop on my layout as well. Remove the middle track in the sawmill area to leave yourself room for stacks of lumber. Other than log trains, what kind of operations scheme are you planning? Is a passenger train going to be the train running the loop while you log perhaps? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Passenger service will be a couple of old Bman old timers. Maybe one of my 2-6-0's in front. Logging locks will be a couple of randy's climaxes, and I have a Shay. I have 25 foot flat cars, plus log cars I built up also 36 foot flat cars I made up for lumber loads. Steam donkeys will power everything. I plan on two 2" pieces of Styrofoam to cut for grades, trestle etc. How's that sound?
Motive power sounds good. Log cars sound good. Cut lumber shipped in boxcars usually. Substrate sounds good, make sure it is xps foam where you're carving (usually blue or pink). That white bead styrofoam is no good for that. Works for mountain bases though. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Thanks for the advice, was looking at the sawmill and you have a good point. Ill not use the middle track so I can stockpile number. I also cast a bunch of Bman boxcar, so will have plenty of those for lumber. Was having a hard time finding older freight cars like the Bachman cars, so cast my own. I appreciate your advice on the foam and other stuff.
Here is the last one. The line climbs up to the log loading area. My logging RR will be mostly logging. Not enough room for mainline running
I have one question, where will you put a town? Someone has to work the mill. The logging camp loads right there and logging cars will run right through the camp. But at the mill, you need some kind of a town for the workers and family.
Families will be housed either in cabin cars, or housing on site. Homes at the sawmill , cabin cars where the logging takes place. I did the basic plan for the track plan part mainly. Mountain size can be cha nged.
