Zephyr and Lenz

jpwisc Aug 14, 2009

  1. jpwisc

    jpwisc TrainBoard Member

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    Hello all,

    I have a Digitrax Zephyr and am having trouble. I have programmed a few Digitrax decoders with no problem.

    Now I am trying to program a Lenz LE062XF in an Altas GP38

    how do I program the long address, I know I need to change CV's 17, 18 and 29, but what info goes where? Do I even have the ability to do this program (how to I program the different bits)?

    17 and 18 are the long address 17 has a range 192-231 and 18 is 0-255 so if I wanted address 4449 for example, what info goes where?

    Thanks,
    Karl
     
  2. Powersteamguy1790

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    Use the formula in the program below. It will give you the values you need for CV 17 & CV18.

    CV 17= 209
    CV 18= 97

    http://ruppweb.dyndns.org/xray/comp/decoder.htm
     
  3. jpwisc

    jpwisc TrainBoard Member

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    Thank you so much!

    Now for some newbie clarification...

    1) set CV 29 to accept long addresses (usually that means setting bit 5 high)

    with the Zephyr, how so I adjust bit 5 of CV 29?
     
  4. CSX Robert

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    Try programming it just like you would your other decoders, but with a 1k resistor placed across the rails of your programming track(you may have to press down on the resistor while programming to make sure it has good contact).
     
  5. jpwisc

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    I'll give that a try, thanks
     
  6. jpwisc

    jpwisc TrainBoard Member

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    The 1K resistor let me program the 4 digit address in, but I still don't know how to set CV 29 or what to set it to. The engine still responds to address 03, only now the lights work but the engine won't move.

    This one is driving me crazy...
     
  7. Dave Balderston

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    To change from the 2 digit to the 4 digit address, add 32 to the value in CV 29, which I believe is 6 by default. (Adding 32 flips the 5th bit to 1)

    You can set a 4 digit address with the Zephyr by pushing the program button and then pressing the loco button. Pressing the loco button will give you a reading of either Ad2 or Ad4. If the reading is Ad2, then you can toggle the loco button to get Ad4. When you get Ad4, you can enter the 4 digit address you want, and then push CW to set the address. The Zephyr will automatically add 32 to CV 29, activating the 4 digit address. When you use the loco button to set the 4 digit address, the Zephyr puts the right information into CV's 17, 18, and 29.
     
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  8. jpwisc

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    Thanks Dave, that worked for getting it to read on the long address.

    The lights operate on the long address, but I still don't have motor movement, I wonder if I have a mechanical issue now...
     
  9. CSX Robert

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    It sounds like you either programmed a consist address into the decoder(by programming a value in CV19) or you used the MU functions of the Zephyr and told it to consist that loco address. First, program CV19 to '0' to make sure it does not have a consist address(if the loco has a consist address programmed into it, it will respond to speed and direction commands sent to the consist address, but function commands default to responding to the loco address). If that does not work, call up the loco's address and if the dot under ""MU" on the display is lit, then the loco is part of a consist. If that is the case, press MU and c/- and that should remove it from the consist and give you full control over the loco. If that does not working, try clearing all decoder and mu information from the command station using OpSw 36 or (see page 31 or pages 46 and 47 of the Zephyr manual).
     
  10. jpwisc

    jpwisc TrainBoard Member

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    I want to thank everyone for their help on this one. It was a combination of things.

    First- I need to better understand programming. So thank for the help with the CV's

    Second- I need to better understand electricity, the 1K resistor on the programming track helped a bunch.

    Third- After getting the engine programmed and checking the mu'ing and all that, I still had no motion, I pulled the shell and watched, going forward the motor would only turn 1/4 revolution before stopping. The motor was pivoting off the contacts (I'm probably using some improper terminology here) so I ran a piece of Kapton tape to hold it in place. Temporary, I know, I'll find a better solution later

    All of your help have this locomotive (WSOR 3806) running and running very well.

    Thanks,
    Karl
     

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