Working at UP?

vagabond Jun 12, 2005

  1. UP's_Ft.Worth_sub_MP_234

    UP's_Ft.Worth_sub_MP_234 TrainBoard Member

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    Be nice if I could hold a road Xtra board. Our switchmens xtra board in Ft.Worth is loaded up all you make is guaratee. We have over 50 or so firemen coming back to the ground here, that means we lower seneoriy people like me we be forced off our higher paid road jobs back to the switchmens xtra board or even out of Ft.Worth too some place 200 miles away from Ft.Worth but still in the FTW hub. Hey Greg, how did they redo yalls seneroty, I know yall probley got it stuck to ya.
     
  2. Jim Wiggin

    Jim Wiggin Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I have always gone over this subject in my mind a thousand times, but I usally convince myself to stay where I'm at. I know two guys who work for the BNSF and one guy who worked on the NS. Both have different takes on it. The hobby industry doesn't pay much but it has its perks. I still would rather see my wife not having to work outside the home, and I still have that application half filled out for the Iowa Interstate RR. [​IMG]
     
  3. vagabond

    vagabond TrainBoard Member

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    Does anyone know if smaller railroads like Iowa pay the same as UP or BNSF? Is there the opportunity to rack up overtime pay like there is with the big boys?
     
  4. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Staff Member

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    When the Roseville Hub was implemented we were dove tailed into one big roster. But we kept our zone seniority for one zone and you fall ahead of the interlopers on pool jobs regardless of their seniority. Extra boards, locals and yard jobs fall into hub seniority. The trainmen had the zone for a while but that time expired and it's strictly hub seniority for brakemen, switchmen and conductors. I did ok in my zone but if I transfer to any other place I will have to use my hub seniority number and lose my zone seniority, forever. Good or bad, that's what happened here in the Roseville hub.

    Greg
     
  5. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Staff Member

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    Does anyone know if smaller railroads like Iowa pay the same as UP or BNSF? Is there the opportunity to rack up overtime pay like there is with the big boys? </font>[/QUOTE]Depends if they are union represented to some extent. That would be a question to ask, and make sure you are paying into the Federal Railroad Retirement system especially if you plan on staying there a while. Some short lines have the union on the property but have non union wages. As far as overtime goes, that depends on the railroad and such.

    Greg Elems
     
  6. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Staff Member

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    If you work for the railroad like the UP or BNSF consider it a 24/7 job. You will miss holidays with the family and be on call. UP is so short of people now is a good time to hire out. Take that with a grain of salt though. When I hired out in 1979 it was a good time too. 1981 rolled around and it became a bad time to work for the railroad industry. It took almost four years to get back with any regularity. Also remember that was a really bad recession and unless it happens again it probably won't be as rough again if you have any time in at all.

    Greg
     
  7. vagabond

    vagabond TrainBoard Member

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    Greg, thanks for all of the info...really helpful!
     
  8. esprrfan

    esprrfan TrainBoard Member

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    The two cities are Toledo to Bellevue.

    Yes I do get to Peru once in a great while, as thats off the west board and I work the extra board on the eastside. Was just there last weekend 17J there and deadhead home after collecting 4 hours held away pay.
     
  9. vagabond

    vagabond TrainBoard Member

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    Well, it's been a couple of years, but I decided to revisit this thread. I noticed the UP website doesn't have nearly as many Train Service openings as it used to. Does that mean the anticipated employee shortage didn't happen, or are all of the positions filled already?
     
  10. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Staff Member

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    There are several things at play on the UP right now. They are trying to eliminate 25% of the operating department, i.e. conductors and engineers. The economy is in a downward spiral, like the housing market. We have freight cars stored all over the UP. The intermodal traffic is down, even with the price of diesel fuel being so high and sending truck traffic to the rails. UP is regularly running trains out of Roseville that are big enough to make to trains out of them. Doing that uses fewer crews and less trains are running. Some areas are in need of train service employees but they have a lot of furloughed trainmen who could borrow out to those areas. All things considered, it isn't a rosy picture for employment on the UP IMO. The only bright spot working out of Roseville is the detour traffic from the mud slide in Oregon but those employees are really hurting so nothing is really gained.

    Greg
     
  11. vagabond

    vagabond TrainBoard Member

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    I'm sorry to hear that, and sorry to hear so many current employees are having a rough go of it. Guess I won't bother applying with UP right now. Thanks for the info, Greg!
     
  12. Flash Blackman

    Flash Blackman Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Good info to post, Greg. Thanks for taking the time to update.
     

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