MILW Whitcomb 44 & 80 tonners

gcav17 Mar 4, 2014

  1. gcav17

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    Ok. I stumbled across this when lookin up the history on the FP 45. Anyone know whether these were gas electric or diesel? I found some info on the company but not much in way of models produced and when. I just see that the Milwaukee started using one in the late twenties. Anyone got more info? And is there anything close in n scale?

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  2. BoxcabE50

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    I don't recall reading they acquired anything of these little switchers that early. Those I can find listed in a quick search were acquired a couple of months before World War II began.
     
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  4. BoxcabE50

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    Those two units. OK. Gas/electrics, which in fact were originally numbered as electrics. If my memory is correct, as E90, E91.

    And yes, be careful when using that site. Verify anything seen.
     
  5. gcav17

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    True. Thats what this sight is for right? I did check with the MRHA but have not dug to far yet. When they say gas electric, thats a gas powered generator locomotive correct? And where were these at? If they really were put into operation in 1929 that would be pretty significant or Milwaukee I would think. Since Whitcomb was one of the first builders of gas/diesel locomotives. If not the first.... And Milwaukee was always lookin for something to save them money and get the publics attention..

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  6. MRLdave

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    The 2 80 ton Whitcombs were delivered in nov. 1929 and june 1930. They were delivered as gas/electrics but were converted by Whitcomb to diesel in 1941. They were sold to the US government in 1944 during WW2. The Whitcomb 44 ton units (7) were delivered in 1940 and 41 along with 3 GE 44 ton locos and 2 from Davenport. I show 1 Whitcomb in Washington, with the rest at various Midwest locations. 1 GE also made it to Washington, 1 in Montana and the 3rd in Minnesota. The 2 Davenports were in Iowa.


    Bachman makes a GE 44 ton loco, and the other 44 ton units looked very similar.........nothing close to the 80 ton I'm aware of.
     
  7. BoxcabE50

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    The MILW had a life long habit of trying new toys in many, many places. Sometimes it was very brief, other times six months, a year, or even more. So these little machines could have been found at one time or another in many locations across their system. Wherever they thought they could pinch a penny, which was the reason behind the idea of producing 44 tonners.
     
  8. gcav17

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    So after Baldwin bought out Whitcomb ( in a shady way) and changed its name. Whitcomb the bought Milwaukee locomotive works. I assume Milwaukee locomotive had nothing to with Milwaukee road?


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  9. MRLdave

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    I have 2 pictures of the 80 tonners........one was near the West Milwaukee terminal and the other in Chicago. They were definitely trying to pinch pennies with the 44 tonners and the no fireman on the crew rule.
     

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