Let's see, F7 A-B-B-A consist in fresh Black Widow, SD9 in full light package also in Kodachrome, SD45 speed lettered, SD40-2t traditional lettering with lots of grime, and the not so popular Kraus-Maffei hydraulic was so ugly you had to love them, another rare bird was the MK-TE70-4S in Daylight "Popsicles" paint. Oops, almost forgot the 4449 Daylight and the Black non steamlned "War babies" 4-8-4. ------------------ espee2 Railroading in Southern Oregon www.tunnel13.com layout: SP's Newberg Branch in N scale [This message has been edited by espee2 (edited 12 November 2000).]
--Anything going over Paisano Pass in west Texas--SD45's with a "Blue Streak" train--also have always admired the "Trainmasters".
My favorite is the overworked, underprivilaged, underappreciated, primal, crude but HIGHLY effective SP SW1500 . That has got to be the KEWLEST loco the Espee has ever owned . I guess because they sound like every nut & bolt is about to rattle loose on them ; as light power they scoot about the yards quickly and methodlically, however-- to me they look (and do) their best in pairs as one alone looks stupid; and three is just looks too crowded!! . At any rate, they ARE the hardest working locos on the SP system, and to me, they should be respected as such. .......Just my Opinion.... .......Thanx 4 Listenin'............Q
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by QTRAIN: My favorite is the overworked, underprivilaged, underappreciated, primal, crude but HIGHLY effective SP SW1500 . That has got to be the KEWLEST loco the Espee has ever owned . I guess because they sound like every nut & bolt is about to rattle loose on them ; as light power they scoot about the yards quickly and methodlically, however-- to me they look (and do) their best in pairs as one alone looks stupid; and three is just looks too crowded!! . At any rate, they ARE the hardest working locos on the SP system, and to me, they should be respected as such. .......Just my Opinion.... .......Thanx 4 Listenin'............Q <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> AMEN!! Welcome to Trainboard QTrain! The lowly "crud" has got to be one of my favs too...and you're right, they do work better in pairs! I've spent many a day at Dolores in Long Beach watching pairs of them scoot back and forth, pulling and kicking cuts of cars. There's nothing quite like the sound of a pair of them, hood doors rattling, white smoke belching, wheels slipping, as they're pulling or pushing a slightly-too-heavy cut of cars. It's a shame UP's been retiring them....bring back the Cruds!!! ------------------ Have A Nice Day!
How 'bout some of these old varnish haulers? Great lines, nice engines. ------------------ http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/ Member No. 508
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BRubino: My vote would be for the SD70Ms. There is just something that I like about these units. BR<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I have to agree BRubino! Those SD70M's look damn good. ------------------ Craig Martyn Best Looking Models Around Custom detailing AND N scale detail parts. BLMA N Scale Detail Parts BLMAinfo@aol.com
I'll have to agree with you all-- those durable little SW1500s and the tunnel motors. I grew up at the base of the Donner grade--little ways below Colfax--and those long lashups of big, noisy, dirty and grimy EMD units were just beautiful. Mostly UP wide-cab locos now--unfortuantely. I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the daylight engines yet-- the GS-2s and 4s, 4449 is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. I also love Espee's little snow fighting trains, Geeps outfitted with the rotating windows and icicle breaker bars, and the flangers and stuff. They're fun to model too.. Enough said. Long live Espee!!!! Derek
Welcome to Trainboard Derek, hope you enjoy it...we try to have a good time here. I think there is one thing we can all agree on...there are just too many cool Espee locomotives out there to just have one "favorite." I loved watching SW1500's switching cuts of cars and hustling locals, Dash 8's, SD45R's, SD40R's, and tunnelmotors working intermodal trains, and on and on... And I've started to get into SP steam, too...I've developed a liking for their AC-9 class. Just too much neat stuff! Paul #3 [ 07 February 2001: Message edited by: Mankind ]
Welcome aboard Derek, my favorite Southern Pacific engine is the AC-9 (2-8-8-4) Streamlined Articulated !
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watash: Welcome aboard Derek, my favorite Southern Pacific engine is the AC-9 (2-8-8-4) Streamlined Articulated !<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Watash.. Yes the steam, is hard to go past.. and in steam, the mighty Cabforward is hard to go past.. as for Diesel.. SW1500 in I think it was Kodak color(saw it on http://espee.railfan.net/), SD40-2, or the U30's catch my eye Its a shame that Concor pulled the pin on the plans to build the Cab Forwards... only in Brass at about $800us ($1600 aussie)... not in this lifetime! [ 11 February 2001: Message edited by: virtual-bird ]
Living in the mountains of California, I never had the privilege of seeing a streamlined AC-9, but I can almost see it in my minds' eye .. but for ultimate beauty and eye appeal my vote goes to the GS4 Daylight. But it's hard to ignore the massive, heart pounding vision of the Cab-forward pulling a mile of cars up the Sierra grades, through tunnels and snowsheds! I have never been able to get too excited about diesel units. To me, they are boring to look at, and to operate (I do both).
I am not real familiar with SP steam, does anyone know where online I could see a pic of the streamlined articulated AC-9 mentioned earlier?
Welcome aboard, SPF. Now, we need to ask Watash where we can find a picture of the streamlined AC-9. If you want to see the 4449 or 2467, 2472, you can take a look at my site and look up Railfair 99, Recent railfan events, and other sites--Northwest Railfan events has some photos of 4449. http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/
There are several pictures of the AC-9's at the Denver Public Library's site in the Otto Perry collection. Here are direct links to the pics: 3802 3802 3805 3809 3809 3811 Dwight [ 11 February 2001: Message edited by: Dwightman ]
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SPF: I am not real familiar with SP steam, does anyone know where online I could see a pic of the streamlined articulated AC-9 mentioned earlier?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> SPF... welcome.. anything SP loco photo wanted, any scheme is at http://espee.railfan.net/
Thanks for all the help, especially Dwightman for the links to the pics. Hmm, very interesting locomotives, I don't remember seeing pics of those before. Were those around for a short time or have I just not been looking in the right places (I am mostly into diesels, so may not have looked at books that would show these types of locos )? Oh, I was given the link to espee.railfan.net by mankind, and it has been very helpful for information and modeling purposes, though the AC-9 was one of the few things they did not have pics of (as far I could tell.)
SPF, Glad to help. Unfortunately, I don't think there is very much info about these locos. At least not that I've been able to turn up. You might try asking on the Espee list over at yahoo groups. They should be able to point you in the right direction for more info. Dwight
