I really like these cars, as they complement my own 70 ton cars in both size and body style, but the red wheels were too bright, and the finish a bit shiney, so I went to town on them. I first removed the red wheels and replaced them with black wheels, then did the obligatory Dullcote to start. After Dullcote, I let dry 15 minutes then drenched them in unshaken rustall. After that dried I dusted them with several shades of Bragdon's powders, until I was well pleased. Total time investment? about an hour for all 3 cars. Isn't Z Fun!
Great job on weathering those hoppers. I must get some of rustall. I also exchange the wheels on my hoppers. The black trucks gets the rust wheels, and the rust trucks gets the black wheels. That was a great idea from Joe.
Yup, those black wheels look better. I might have weathered mine a touch dark, I like the way roberts came out. I think I need some of Bragdon's weather products. They sound awsome!
Robert that Dullcote you speak of is it Testors Dullcote spray enamel? I went to pick some up at my LHS and the salesperson said it would eat plastic. If this is what you use is it safe on body, truck and wheel plastic?
i'd heard all the accolades for Testor's dullcote too, so i picked up a can, one day. it's the only flat finish i use now! it dries fast and i've never had it (or heard of it) eat the plastic. i'd question the hobby shop person's information. i'm sure you'll get a lot of good feedback about it here. dave f.
I have never found Testors Dullcote to melt any plastic, but the main reason I am using it is for the white washed out limescale effect when you brush unshaken Rustall on it. I have been using this effect as the basis of all my weathering projects for a few months now, and I am really happy with the effect. By itself, it is not enough, but after adding the Bragdon's weathering powders, the effect is fun. I always seem to spray the trucks, wheels, and couplers a bit, but you can scrape Dullcote off couplers as it don't melt in to Delrin.
Nice cars! Now I bet it's hard to have anything bright and shiney on the layout. I've never had a problem with Dullcote, sometimes I use 5-6 cans a year of the stuff! If you put alcohol over top of it it will get a white haze to it like Robert was trying for. (alcohol in the Rust-all) If for any reason you don't want this white haze, just give it another cote of Dullcote and it will go away.
After further investigation there seems to be a Testors Dullcote spray Enamel and a Testors Dullcote #1260 flat lacquer. Would it be the lacquer that eats the plastic and the enamel that is ok?
Maybe, as I just use the stuff in a spray can. If it's brush on flat, I like to use water based Polly S, but now that I know it's Alcohol on Dullcote that causes that washed out look, I will start messing with that method next! -Robert
About the Dullcote & alcohol: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4369 http://www.mrhobby.com/fading.html As always I would try it on scrap first to see how it works out. The Rust-All might be thinned, I don't know. Also there is 70% and 90% alcohol, each may give different results. And don't forget while your practicing, try spaying over the white wash with more Dullcote to watch it all disappear just to get the feel for it. Lots of different ways to weather.
Robert they look great and the 1 hour time was including me judging them. while you worked on them and 1/2 hour BullS... session
