Ta da ..........drum roll.......... It's a USRA Light Pacific See the drawing on their website here ========= http://www.modelpower.com/MPimages/new_5_02/462%20PACIFIC.jpg ========= eNjoy
Good find Don, I have waited absolutely FOREVER for MP to update their site! Now if they would just post some photo's or paint scheme drawings to go with their .img links...
So this latest steamer about to be released is just another USRA light Pacific, this is a disappointment to all of us in Canada and probably a lot of American modelers also. Why not a heavy Pacific this time? The CNR and the CPR never had any Pacifics that looked like this. This engine is just a rework of the Atlas light Pacific of the late 60's, except it's cast in metal. If you have one of these old timer Atlas Pacifics at home, take a look at it and compare it to the line drawing....it is identical except for the headlight being seperated from the boiler nose this time. Similar to what Bachmann did on their Consolodation headlight. OH WELL!....So now we wait to see what Bachmann comes up with next.
dbn160 - That link doesn't work for me. Then again, the modelpower.com site doesn't seem to be working for me either.
"Just a rework of the Atlas Light Pacific????" One of the reasons the USRA Heavy Pacific is a not such a good choice to tool is there was only one railroad that had them...the Erie... and the Light was copied more than the Heavy....Even the Light Pacific originals were limited to ACL, B&O and L&N! I will be very happy if, as I suspect, Ajin is going to hit a home run with this model despite Model Power's prior reputation for trainset quality products. BTW, original intelligence on this model suggested two versions... the stock USRA Light Pacific and a streamstyled version with running board skirts and fancy paintjobs, ala IHC's Mehano USRA Light Pacific in HO..... also welcome. The G&S may very well need a BUNCH of these to protect passenger service. Charlie Galesburg & Savanna Rwy.Co.
"only one railroad that had them ...The Erie..." ???? You must mean in the USA Charlie. The CN and CP had a ton of heavier Pacifics, but they were all built in the MLW in Montreal, the CPR Angus Shops Montreal, and the CLC Kingston Shops in Ontario but they still looked different than the USRA Heavy Pacific anyway. It sure must be a lot easier modeling boxcars with motors in them! "Diesels" Anyone who wants to model steamers of the CNR or the CPR accurately has to be one heck of a good steamer kitbasher. The only steamers that work well for Canadian Railroad steam modelers are the Kato Mikado that still needs a winter cab, an Elesco feedwater heater and other bits installed on it and the Bachmann Consolodation. They can forget about the Con-Cor 4-8-4 unless they want to do some real heavy kitbashing on a very expensive new engine. I'll stick with the Mikados! However, the old Minitrix Decapod lends itself well to being kitbashed into a good look'n CNR Santa Fe 2-10-2 T-4 b, 4200 series. That is if you can change out the motor and have the shell from a Bachmann Northern with a long haul tender, a shell from an Atlas Light pacific and parts from a Kato Mikado handy. If I had a website I could send a picture to you on Trainboard. With a bit of luck maybe the old Atlas Heavy Pacific larger shell will fit over this new Model Power Light Pacific chassis. The old Atlas Heavy Pacific shell fitted perfectly over the old Atlas Light Pacific chassis because it was the same chassis. OH WELL!
No, I meant in North America. The CP and CNR Pacifics were not near as heavy as the USRA Heavy in boiler size.... plus the USRA had 78" dia drivers IIRC. The Royal Hudson is closer to the USRA in dimension than the CP or CNR engines. The "Light" Pacifics were much more typical in size to most North American Pacifics built around the same time or later. Same thing for Mexico, in case there are any devotees of the NdeM waiting to lunge!!!
Now you have made me do some checking Charlie and you are correct. A lot of the CN and CP Pacifics did not have 78" drivers, only 75" drivers, such as CPR 2459, 2218, 2332, 2200, 2313 and CNR 5578 and 5521 for examples and 5578 only weighed 379,000 lbs. Were the NYC K-5 class Pacifics biggger than the USRA Pacifics? NYC 4915 and 4924 had 79" drivers and 84 1/2 " boilers. I have a photo of CPR Pacific 2516 built in the Agus shops in 1907 and if she only has 75" drivers then the engineer standing beside those BIG wheels, must be only about 4' 6" tall. These drivers look to be about 80". Actually "2860", The British Columbia Railway Royal Hudson ( class H1e with 75" drivers ) was built in the MLW shops in Montreal in 1940 for the CPR as "2860". She was bought at the end of the steam era from the CPR and was being used to pull the Royal Hudson Train by the Vancouver Railway Museum B.C. for use in fanrail excursions. She is not running at present as she needs a total refit of her plumbing. Somebody ran her out of water. It will take about a Million $ to get her running again.
Hopefully, the streamstyled version will be a good starting point for a T&NO P-14. Charlie, if you hear any more info on this, please keep us updated. Dwight
Well, the pic link finally works for me, but wouldn't ya know it, it's nothing like any of the C&O locos... so it does me absolutely no good.
