trains used in under siege 2 dark territory

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  1. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    If I am to be told a story based upon history, it needs to be accurate. Trying to hide it behind a smoke screen of modern days flash/bang and glitz of faked "realism" fails for me. As with so many other re-makes and even "new" productions we get no plots, just alleged pretty people and all kinds of useless noise distracting from the fact it's really about nothing. I can stay home, take off my shoes and wiggle toes to have entertainment just as good- For free.

    A truly good movie needs involvement of the viewer's imagination. And few do that any more.
     
  2. BoxcabE50

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    Not Hornet in April of 1942.


    If so, I'd bet the location would have been either Philippines or Japan. I know they did attack rail targets, but a "major" site?
     
  3. Jim Wiggin

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    That Movie, Pearl Harbor, was the biggest piece of revisionist history I have ever seen. Ben's rank was all over the place, the British were using Hurricanes in the battle of Britain not Spitfires, at least not in the numbers shown in the film, the P-40N's shown in the movie was a later model, we were using P-40B's at that time as well as P-36's. The ships used were all "modern" Gulf War era ships, the carriers used in the movie had slant decks. Slant decks didn't come out until the mid fifties when jets were used. so much more. If you don't want to read a history book and see a Hollywood version of history, Tora, Tora, Tora! is a good one.

    Simple rule of thumb of movie accuracy, if it bombs at the box office, it might be pretty accurate.
     
  4. Logtrain

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    No that one never even made it past I think June of 1942 when it was sunk off the coast of Japan. The one the exists today is CV-12 and is currently a museum in Alameda, Ca.

    Now another one if you want to get right down to a foobie in Hollywood is Titanic. It takes place in 1914, and Kate Winslet pays DiCaprio $0.10 to draw her. Well she pays him with an FDR dime! OOPS!!!

    Sorry to kind of hi-jacking the tread. I watched Under Siege 2 again last night and I am thinking that the coaches were a mixture of El Capitan cars and Superliner heritage 1 cars. The reason I say this, is because IIRC El Capitan bi-lever cars all had the diaphrams on the upper lever correct? If so then the 1st coash in the movie is not an El Capitan car as the diaphragm on it is on the lower level like the Amtrak heritage 1 transistion coaches were.
     
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  7. Ike the BN Freak

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    The first coaches in the El-Cap were transition coaches, with one diaphragm low and other high. Kato did this car in Amtrak as that is where Amtrak got the original crew dorms from these cars.
     
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    Funny... I missed the FDR dime thing. I must have been...er...distracted.

    Sorry about that. Back to trains...
     
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