Take this train and Shove It!!!!

SP 9811 Jul 1, 2006

  1. Alaska GP49

    Alaska GP49 TrainBoard Member

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    Here one of three helper sets is shoving another coal train just before entering the Lower Horseshoe while the head end has already rounded the Upper Horseshoe on Windy Point.

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    Same set rounding Windy Point.

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  2. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Excellent!
    I can just hear *cringe* the flange squeal!
     
  3. Alaska GP49

    Alaska GP49 TrainBoard Member

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    We stayed at the ranch. You are right it is nice. It is nice being so claose to all the action! You are lucky! I have always wanted to see the fuel tenders in the helper sets. Been there twice and they were not using them either time. Guess I will have to go back!
     
  4. Wolfgang Dudler

    Wolfgang Dudler Passed away August 25, 2012 TrainBoard Supporter In Memoriam

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    Is this the new track spacing? 25 feet?

    Wolfgang
     
  5. doofus

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    The track spacing is wider in the curves so wide loads can pass by each other and not collide. When Crawford Hill was single track, there was a station and siding just below these curves. When the hill was double tracked, they did not re-align the siding and kept the same track centers on the lower part of the hill. On the upper portion the track centers were wider to accomodate wide loads and track maintenance.
     
  6. friscobob

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    I've seen pushers either manned or DPU on certain trains on the Gallup Sub- coalies, grainers, stack trains (usually eastbound, and the longer ones) and trains such as what I found below, 1 mile east of the summit at Continental Divide (elev. 7253 ft.):

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    This train was all covered hoppers- not sure, but I think it was a potash train. Note the Helm leaser at the end of the helper set.
     
  7. MP333

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    BNSF 5116 eastbound near Vaughn NM July 2006
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  8. Alaska GP49

    Alaska GP49 TrainBoard Member

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    Friscobob,
    Nice shot of the Helm leasing unit in helper service. Kinda unusual.

    Campp,
    We don't see many helpers or DPU's in CO or WY on intermodal. Looks a little strange. Growing up around the railroad I guess I have the false notion still that intermodal is high speed, high priority, fairly light trains. Times have changed!
     
  9. Triplex

    Triplex TrainBoard Member

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    CP 9550 on an eastbound intermodal:
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  10. MRL

    MRL TrainBoard Member

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    Helpers cresting the grade at Belmont on Crawford Hill.
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  11. Alaska GP49

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    MRL
    When did you get that shot? I have always wanted to be up there when they are using fuel tenders. Belmont is a great place. One of my favorite!
     
  12. MRL

    MRL TrainBoard Member

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    I believe that it was taken around the fourth or fifth of March last year.
     
  13. SP 9811

    SP 9811 TrainBoard Member

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    This has got to be one of the weirdest switching moves I have ever seen. These units are push, pulling two cuts of cars. Keep in mind they are shoving against the grade outside of Mojave. This crew is making up the West Flyer.
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    Thom
     
  14. dave n

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    Cliff siding, Tehachapi, 7/95, a Santa Fe light helper set drifting down the grade passing a mid train SP helper in the siding:
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  15. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    On a very rainy, dreary Sunday last week, the Essex helper set is shoving hard on a manifest at Java East on Marias Pass, just about 25 miles west of Summit:

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  16. Hoochrunners

    Hoochrunners TrainBoard Member

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    Don't forget safety...
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  17. HemiAdda2d

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    A DPU on a BNSF EB manifest at Fraser, CO ont he 2% ramp to Moffat Tunnel and Winter Park:

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  18. wurlitzer153

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    I managed to catch a train up the hill in Ashtabula and it didn't have a pusher, for a change! But, the two units were going a constant 10 MPH in run 8! It actually interchanged from CSX onto NS to go south down to Youngstown. The line hauls coal and iron ore to and from Ashtabula harbor.

    Sattelite view, follow this line south up the hill to Carson yard!
     
  19. friscobob

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    Even passenger trains get shoved around.......witness this consist making up a Downeaster awaiting its departure from Portland, ME bound for Boston, MA on former B&M trackage. This train has two P42s, one on each end, but usually a F40 "cabbage" unit is one one end with a P42 on the other.

    Another Amtraker that operates like this is the Heartland Flyer between Ft. Worth and OKC.

    Yes, I know, it's called push-pull, but it's the closest to the passenger equivalent of a train being shoved.
     
  20. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    EB coal loads in Byers Canyon, CO:

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