T.H.E.R.R. Reborn!

mtntrainman Jul 9, 2012

  1. badlandnp

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    So, the flat car will need the tinfoil, with chains dragging on the ballast, and little green guys holding on to it while trying to get in??!!

    :LOL::LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    Either that or we accept the waves as a 'vintage 70's look,' to the video.
     
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  2. mtntrainman

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    OK TEST COMPLETE !(y)

    Indoors...no interference (y)

    Outside...no interference (y)

    In THERR RV (no lights)...no interference (y)

    In THERR RV Turn RV power converter on...no interference (y)

    In THERR RV (turn overhead LED light strips on)...INTERFERENCE !!:(

    Turn on DCC system...no change same INTERFERENCE lines.(y)

    My conclusion...Its the overhead LED light strips inside THERR RV... :(:mad::censored::censored::censored::censored:

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  3. MK

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    One more possibility.

    DCC system on and LED strip light off. You will probably get no interference but just in case it's also the DCC system.

    There may be stuff out there that can scrub the LED interference but if it's also your DCC system, I doubt you will want to replace it but rather find a new camera that would work with it.

    In the early days of LED residential light bulbs, they would interfere with radio reception, WiFi, security cameras, etc.
     
  4. mtntrainman

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    As a follow up:

    Is it the LED lights or is it the cheap camera...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmo_O:confused::cautious:
     
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  5. mtntrainman

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    Just did that check. No difference. I don't think the DCC system is a fault. (y)
     
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  6. mtntrainman

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    Yea. My Sony handi-cam does NOT get interference. Just this little cube camera.
     
  7. mtntrainman

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    This little spy camera never picked up interference. I am gonna do a deep dive on ebay. See if I can find a NOS one...(y)

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    Of course this camera was discontinued years ago. Makes one wonder if the rechargeable battery inside is still alive in a NOS one...:LOL::LOL:
     
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  9. BigJake

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    Cheap and/or early LED bulbs use less filtering in the power supply to save cost, knowing that the human eye is not fast enough to see the resulting flicker. But cameras can!
     
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  10. mtntrainman

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    But like I said...my handi-cam shows no flicker:confused::cautious:
     
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  11. NtheBasement

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    For what its worth I get the same interference with mine. I use ballasted florescent fixtures but replaced the 4-foot bulbs with LED drop-ins long ago. If anything I would suspect its the ballasts in the fixtures. Might try holding the camera up near one and see how that looks.
     
  12. mtntrainman

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    These are the LED shop lights I use...

    https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-Integrated-Fixture-Utility-Electric/dp/B01HBT3BVM/ref=sr_1_9?crid=2K878G3H0QAE4&keywords=4+foot+led+shop+light&qid=1700583613&sprefix=4+foot+led+shop+light,aps,527&sr=8-9&th=1

    I dont believe they are 'ballasted'. They most likely have internal electronics to reduce 110AC to run the LEDS.

    BTW...nice video...really nice layout ! (y)(y)
     
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  13. NtheBasement

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    No ballast on those. Could still experiment: turn on the camera and move it from the floor to just under a light, then look at the video.
     
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  14. mtntrainman

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    I will give that a try. Just as soon as I have enough coffee in me. It's 33 degrees outside right now !!o_O:coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::eek:
     
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  15. mtntrainman

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    Oh yea...it's worse closer to the light. Andy may be onto something with...

    The 'wavelength' effect gets more intense the closer to the LED lights I get.

    I will know more when the NOS camera gets here. I still think it may be the cheapness of the mini camera I just bought. Time will tell. (y)
     
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  16. mtntrainman

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    Just a thought here...

    【NIGHT VISION & MOTION DETECTION】Captures more details and present high definition images in wider range during night with 6pcs IR LED lights without infrared visible red light .It would make sure all triggered movements in your notice. The spy body camera starts recording when it detects motion and stops when it motion is no longer detected. No more sifting through hours of uneventful footage.

    Even though I am not using it it 'night vision' or in 'motion detection' mode. Could those 6 IR LED lights be on and interfering ? Inquiring mind want to know. Hmmmmm... :cautious::confused:
     
  17. mtntrainman

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    Got out to THERR RV today and ran my 2 new locomotives.:coffee::coffee:

    First impressions:

    Scale Trains Operator N Scale GE ET44C4 Tier 4 GEVo

    ESU LokPilot Micro DCC “motor only” decoder with Next18 connector
    Modeler-applied Snow plow(y), trainline hoses, 3-hose MU clusters, and uncoupling levers:unsure:

    (out of the box)
    Really nice details. Reallllly slow but smooth starting. Fairly quiet. Still breaking it in ! Pulls 15 cars easy up a 2 percent grade.
    Takes a scale 1600 feet to stop with throttle turned to zero !! !!:eek::whistle:
    Still need to set decoder through JMRI

    Will grade it A+ (y)(y)

    Kato N BNSF SD70ACE #8780 DCC
    Digitrax Decoder

    (out of the box)
    Really nice details. Starts smooth but fast. Really noisy.:unsure::( Still breaking it in ! Pulls 15 cars easy up a 2 percent grade.
    Still need to set decoder through JMRI

    Will grade it a solid A (y)
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  18. MK

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    A really noisy Kato, especially new, is kind of an oddity.
     
  19. BNSF FAN

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    Almost identical experience with my ST and Kato. Only difference is the noise from the Kato isn't loud but is noticeable as it passes. Seems to be getting better as it gets some run time.
     
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  20. mtntrainman

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    IKR !

    None of my other Katos where/are this noisy. Hoping more break in time will will help. It is the same noise wise in forward and reverse. Usually noisy locomotives are worse in one direction or the other. It is that 'wwwrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiing' noise. Sounds more motor related then gear related. :unsure:
     

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