SP/SSW SP fans vote!

so which of the two is your vote? CNW or SSW?

 

i clarified some things in my original post on how things will look a tad different when they are actually painted

 

I guess C&NW.
What's the point of a Cotton Belt Heritage unit? I mean, part of the point is to have a DIFFERENT paint scheme right?

 

i was lazy when it came to my heritage fleet i chose to use the last scheme each company used... Although i did decided there was no way i was doing the kind of schemes UP did... this is because they are blasphemous in my opinion... tell me when a rio Grande loco ever looked anything like the UP heritage unit and don't get me started on the butchering of the daylight! ... i decided for my heritage i would honor the companies for what they were not some made up crap thus you see the companys' real schemes in my heritage fleet as for the cotton belt i HATE the black widow thus i could not waste my money getting a unit painted i do not know why i dislike the black widow so much i just do.

 

You sir, seem to be a minority. Most se;f-respeccting SP people love the Black Widow, but not all of the Self Respecting ones. That group just happens to only be you so far. (What's not cool about "Black Widow", or more importantly, what is cool about a bloody nose?)

There were a pair a few Daylight Cotton Belt engines. Daylight is also better than Bloody Nose too.

The thing I learned and hadn't figured out, they crossed the Daylight with the Black Widow. It's different, and I';m not sre it's something I'd like on every engine, but I like the stylized look to it. The Daylight was art-deco anyway.

And your right the Rio Grande never lloked like 1986, UP wants the working business presence to be UP, having an engine in the uniform of Rio Grande ruins that. So they went with a scheme that was obviously showy the road does instill that kind of imagery of mountain range, so they went with imaginative imagery.

Likewise, the CNW doesn't look like the real CNW engines, but it is pretty close, and much more tame than the SP engine.

But hey, to each his own.

 

i didnt want to use daylight because when you hear daylight what is the first company that comes to your mind? certainly not Cotton Belt and black widow is just too bland (too me) the nose is not filled with a color as the bloody nose is. As for what is cool about the bloody nose... Red is one of my favorite colors... the grey and red just give SP units (particularly the GEs) that tough look. At first i hated the bloody nose but i stuck with it since it would cost way too much money to change the paint scheme to anything else. After a while it grew on me and i think its awesome nw and wouldn't dare think of changing it now.
also regarding the black widow i went around to people showing them 2 pictures... one of a bloody nose ac4400 and one of the black widow tower 55 es44. a VAST majority of the people said they prefered the bloody nose as the black widow was unappealing.

 

Huh. Okay, so my crowd stands corrected.

MRC had a commemorative loco dones by Athearn for them.It had an SP bloody nose o the hood, but the entire engien was black with the gold lettering, which even with that I liked better than the grey.

And still, I'd love to see which engines you do end up doing.

 

I like the Bloody nose on Tunnel motors. I hate hate hate it on wide cabs. The 70Ms and the GEs.

But that's just me.

If the Rio Grande were Yellow and Silver I'd have been more interested.

Also, you can put me with Flashwave among the people that like the Heritage units for what they are. UP isn't in the business of promoting a dead railroad's image they are in the business of promoting their heritage and those are 2 different things.

One of the big factors in how close the paint scheme was was how many paint schemes the predecessor road had.

As for the ROCK, IAIS got it right on their Heritage scheme. It's exactly what it should look like .

 

Trust me you will be seeing some specifically the rock and rio grande the others are in question due to the fact that i don't have the money for them all at the time as i must save for ES44s

 

I like the Katy, vote goes for MKT, but it would be cool if it was red Katy with the big white MKT and the red logo, sort of a blend of old red and middle red, before the green. But I like the green too.

And just to throw my hat in the argument, black widow should never have been abandoned, nothing like a metallic silver nose on a loco.

 

My question is why did they abandon it? was there a real reason why the bloody nose was picked over it? i mean im glad it did but i have allways wondered why

 

Betcha it was cheaper to slap on an overall grey, then add some small noses of red - its rather minimal and I think quite handsome. No laborious full body line masking and no three color, gloss paint. I like the Black Widow better, but there is both brute force and elegance in grey/red. Roman letters, too, speed lettering is a horrific abhorration of typography, cheesy. It'll grow on you, but if you really look at it, its a bad custom font (I'm a designer of 20 years, bad font choices annoy me, ha!

 

But why grey over black? A red nose on black I still say looks better than th grey. Someone remind me to pst up the MRC engine I mentioned tomorrow.

 

egad! speed lettering is amazing!!!! so much more allive than the old writing style we had on out older locos