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    Hi everyone, just thought i'd share some photos. Some of you may have seen them before, hope you like them.
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  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thanks for posting these photos.

    By chance do you have a closer view of that yellow logo on engine 104?
     
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  3. Hytec

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    Nice photos, thanks. I didn't know the LIRR used an overshot third rail. I assumed that it used an undershot like the NYC Harlem and Hudson Divisions. Do LIRR trains use third rail into Penn Station?
     
  4. John Bartolotto

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    All,

    I am looking for all any photos of the diner at the Morris Park Yard.

    John
     
  5. No Door Light

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    Thank You for the comments! To answer your questions, yes third rail is run all the way into Penn Station. I dont have a closer shot of the logo, but here is one.
    http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrlogos/image013.jpg No photographer info listed.
    I found this in regards to the diner.
    http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/morrispark/LIRRDiner-MorrisParkShopsBob_Anderson1963_small.jpg Photo by Bob Anderson.

    Both of these images were from this great LIRR site, check it out here
    http://www.trainsarefun.com/
     
  6. John Bartolotto

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    No Door Light,

    Thanks for the photo of the diner. I'm looking for photos of the sides facing away from the camera if anyone knows where I can find those or has some to share.

    Yours,

    John
     
  7. BoxcabE50

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    Thanks for the logo closeup. Somehow it looked like different text from the avatar John Bartolotto uses. Guess that fooled me just because it is the reversed direction.
     
  8. Hytec

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    Thanks for the third rail response. Guess I never looked down whenever I was in Penn Station, only up.
     
  9. John Bartolotto

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    Cool photos! I like the composition with the rails. :tb-biggrin:
     
  11. nyandw

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    Diner in Morris Park Shops

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    That's a tall order John! I was very lucky to obtain this one... LIRR Diner east of Blacksmith's Shop Map location: #31 1963 Photo: Bob Anderson
     
  12. John Bartolotto

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    Bob,

    Thanks. I have searched all the LIRR books I have and all the LIRR web sites I know of and the photos of the sides facing away from the camera still allude me. Ah well, I will just resort to artistic liberties when I start to model this in a few months.

    John
     
  13. nyandw

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    Hytec: Can you define overshot/undershot for us? Thanks. :)
     
  14. nyandw

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    John if that's the case: 1. Look at other similar style diners and see what they look like (even the Mineola Diner). 2. That's the kitchen side thus, a garbage bin/pails, cardboard cartons, other junk, an exit door, perhaps a pallet with stuff on it, cooking ventilation openings, another air conditioner, telephone/electrical hookups, etc.
     
  15. John Bartolotto

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    NYandW,

    Thanks!

    John
     
  16. Hytec

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    "Undershot" is where the power pickup shoe rides under and pushes up against the third rail. This configuration is used by Metro-North (ex-New York Central) in Grand Central Terminal and on the Harlem and Hudson lines. The third rail is encased on top and both sides by an insulating material (originally wood) and suspended from brackets.

    "Overshot" is where the power pickup shoe rides on top of and pushes down against the third rail. This configuration is used by the LIRR and NYC subways.

    Undershot, though more expensive to manufacture and install, is safer than overshot because the third rail is insulated on three sides, better protecting from accidental contact.
     
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