Dec 15, 2012
Now its starting to look like my room as a teenager...
2x4 is a big mess. I'm looking forward to the finished project. If anything is ever finished.
I stay focused when I work. I have to finish what I start before I can move on to something else. I'm still getting stuff for this project. More pictures to come.
When it comes to messes, bigger is always better. And this one should be spectacular!
Did scrap yards have balers in the 1960s ?
In the 1964 James Gold movie, "Goldfinger," the villain has a luxury car which is supposed to be solid gold under the paint. The villain's henchman Odd Job takes it to a scrapyard and the entire new luxury car is crushed into a block. Is that what you would call a bale? If it is, that shows such things were around in n1964.
Yes, balers were widely used in 1960. In fact they had been in use since before WW-II, http://www.shulmancompany.com/history.php.
For more information, try Googling "metal scrap baler history" which is how I found the Shulman site.
That's good news as I have just built a Walthers baler. I wanted to stay in my era....the 1960s
I thought you would like to see progress. Some items are just placed. Nothing is permanent yet
Looks great. Now you need a crane to get to the top.
Looks like the pile has been growing!
Wow I'm loving it. Great job already.
I do need a crane. I'm modeling 1963 Anything out there that would be appropriate?
Here is the west gate with truck scale. What would be the right truck for this scene?
The tractor in your photo is much too modern, as is the 55' trailer. A junk hauler probably would be using a ratty looking 15-20 year old Mack, Autocar, or Brockway. These were reliable rough duty tractors during the '40s and '50s. Also a 40' bin trailer, similar to what you have next to the junk pile beside your ""modern" truck.
For a crane, you need to find a mobile crane with an electro-magnet in place of hook or bucket. The crane also would be old and ratty looking. I'll see if I can find a photo of such an animal.
Here's a junkyard magnet crane that's on rails, but it's similar to what I was visualizing
I seem to recall they would also use a crane with a clamshell bucket.
The yard near me has a clam shell bucket on an old rather tall crane and two smaller and newer cranes with magnets. The clam shell heaps it up and the magnets load into trucks (no rail connection anymore) letting the pile tumble down as it will. There pile is half the size of Candy's so the equipment is smaller.
There is also aweightt scale by the office toweighh the trucks as they enter and leave.
Lookin good, Candy. Take a gander at this site: http://www.google.com/search?source...0.219.767.0j3j1.4.0...0.0...1ac.1.3rV8b0DITCo . Should give you some good ideas.
Trucks hauling scrap metal are required to keep their load material no higher than the top of the sides of the trailer. Junk hauled on flat-bed trailers, such as crushed automobiles are required to be secured by chains over the top of the stack(s). No fabric straps are allowed to be used for this purpose.
I think the truck is of the right vintage for your scene. Just add a couple stacks of crushed cars lashed down with chains. I believe Woodland Scenics and others have crushed vehicle stacks. Just remember they always overloaded the trucks with cars sometimes almost falling off.
I made a mistake in my last post. I said clam shell when I meant to say claw. Like those in the arcade games out side stores that steal your quarter and you never get that little stuffed toy. You may have to fabricate one to attach to a hook crane of your choice.
I knew what you meant
When I was a young girl I lost my whole allowance in one of those machines trying to get this stuffed bear I badly wanted. It looked easy...it wasn't and I never did get that bear.
Railway Express Miniatures makes a couple of cranes suitable for 1960s scrapyards in N scale, they also make the claw and magnet. I just got in the high cab crane and magnet for my future srapyard.