YoHO, Thanks for your input. You get to see first hand what can be done. Here on the mountain three of the BVMR's (Bear Valley Model Railroaders) went together to purchase Bragdon's products. The results of what we've done locally on three different layouts is awe inspiring. No flat lander layouts happening here. Ie., Stubby's layout, a canyon with both sides done up with three of Bragdon's rock forms. Turned out better then I anticipated. Pictures at 11:00 P.M. or whenever I can get some taken. In the meantime, you may recognize this video as I've spotted it here two maybe three times. Steve's HO Scale Model Railroad with most of the scenery, the result of Bragdon's Geo., Foam. On my screen I have to bump it up to 480 pixels otherwise it's wavy and terribly distorted. [video=youtube;Qwxc1zjHkjc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwxc1zjHkjc[/video] Steve's HO Scale Model Railroad Rick Howland I like to say, "Not a gimic, not a shill, just a happy customer." Now it's my turn to get some scenery installed.