Radio Banter... What is Switchingly Switched?

rray Dec 31, 2002

  1. rray

    rray Staff Member

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    I downloaded a bunch of .wav files of train sounds, milepost detector boxes, and radio transmissions and I hear the term "Switchingly Switched" in several of them. What does this mean?
     
  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    ???? Any hint what Railroad the chatter came from...? My last contact with the railroad industry was 1996. And I'd not heard this terminology. Perhaps it's some new jargon. Such as enginely engined? Yardingly yarded?

    :confused:

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  3. rray

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    They did not mention the railroad, but there were a bunch of tones first, then they say "weeling lake erie switchingly switched is lined normal for the main, out"

    It's weird isn't it?
     
  4. Hytec

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    This is just a guess ....

    1 - The tones prior to the voice probably indicate that a trunking radio system was being used for the communication. The tones are electronic codes used between the transmitter, base station, and receiver to set up a one-way circuit between the calling radio and the receiving radio.

    2 - "Switchingly" could be a mis-pronounciation of a location along the Wheeling & Lake Erie Railroad. The W&LE runs north-south through eastern Ohio. I assume the caller is telling someone that the switch at "Switchingly" has been aligned for the main track.

    Is anyone familiar with any control points or locations on the W&LE that might sound like "Switchingly"?
     
  5. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I visited their web site, and don't see anything on the map that comes close. Probably not all the stations are shown.

    http://www.wlerwy.com/maps/wLEMAP.htm

    We'd probably need to find someone with a recent employee timetable. It could even be found in the Special Instructions.

    :D

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  6. r watson

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    Hi! All. I must admit,this is a head scratcher,but I think Hanks pretty close, is the voice a dispatcher or is it electronic, If so it would seem that there isnt a place called switchingly but a computerized stutter! Remove the former and leave "switch is lined normal for the main" and it appears to be correct,or it my have nothing to do with it! Its that damnned." MANTOON MAD GASSER"at it again! [​IMG] :eek: :rolleyes: [​IMG] [​IMG] :D :D HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!
     
  7. rray

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    I tracked down where I downloaded this sound:
    http://ohiorr.railfan.net/audio/weswlead.wav

    Its almost a megabyte wav file, but the site identifies it as a talking switch machine on the Wheeling & Lake Erie at the east end of Brewster Yard.

    [ 01. January 2003, 01:09: Message edited by: pray59 ]
     
  8. GP30

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    phew... this a tuffy. "Wheeling and Lake Erie switchingly switched is lined normal for the main. Repeat, switchingly switched is lined normal for the main."
    1) Wheeling & Lake Eris Railroad
    2) "lined normal for the main" I guess This train is coming off of a branch onto a main line and the switch has been thrown for that train to enter.
    3) "Switchingly Switch"... it doesn't seem like a voice computer error, it probably WAS intended to be that way. It seems too much like a Human voice than a computer generated one. When I hear one, they all seem to be a bass-sounding and very monotonous :confused: .
    CONCLUSION: I say that maybe a REAL tower operator said that to the train. The train was referred to as "Switchingly Switched" as slang meaning a local switch job, or a regular yard transfer.
     
  9. Telegrapher

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    Pat. I believe you have hit it on the head. Yours is the best explanation yet.
     
  10. Johnny Trains

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    Sounds to me that whomever programmed the computer made a typing mistake. (Is it a human or computerized voice? Have you figured it out for sure?)

    It sure has us bewitched over the switch.

    Maybe the computer voice can't say, " switch switched" without being unintelligable.

    Maybe a human can't say it correctly either!

    [ 01. January 2003, 13:27: Message edited by: Johnny Trains ]
     
  11. rray

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    Scowering the web I scraped up just this on the term "Switchingly"

    Enter Exibit A:
    (at the bottom it says "movable track girder can be switchingly moved in conjunction therewith")

    [​IMG]

    Exibit B:
    (in reference to multiple disc drives being controlled by a host computer...for a context of term usage)

    I nominate the term "Switchingly" to mean "Automatic Control Following Defined Protocol" :D

    [ 01. January 2003, 18:27: Message edited by: pray59 ]
     
  12. MagicMan_841

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    The voice sounds like an ATIS (Automated Terminal Information System) voice. An ATIS is a frequency you can monitor to get airport weather information. They are computer generated messages typed in a computer that repeats itselfs indefinately until it is changed, every hour or so.
     
  13. r watson

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    I just played the downloaded wav file, and had my wife listen, shes a computer specialist and she says everybody hears something different because there listening to hard, she says its a real voice but is saying SWITCHING LEAD SWITCH, track is lined normal for the main. Shes a lot like Barbara! Says if a women had said it know one whould have gotten confused in the first place! You guys argue with her! :eek: :eek: [​IMG] :D Rich.
     
  14. rray

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    That's as good as anything I'v heard so far... So should we have a new topic "What does Switching Lead Switched" mean... Anyone?
     
  15. GP30

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    I listened VERY carefully ans even slowed it down 11%, it is sounds like "Switchingly Switch" the first time but when the recorder or person says" repeat, SWITCHING LEAD SWITCH is lined normal for the Main" it basically leada back to most of my first set of conclusions:
    1) Wheeling & Lake Erie Railroad
    2) "lined normal for the main" I guess This train is coming off of a branch onto a main line and the switch has been thrown for that train to enter.
    3) It seems too much like a Human voice than a computer generated one. When I hear one, they all seem to be a bass-sounding and very monotonous .
    CONCLUSION: I say that maybe a REAL tower operator said that to the train. The person/computer said "Switching Lead Switched" meaning the same thing as #2 above. Likely a local switch job, or a train "laid in the hole" (i.e. placed on a siding.)
     
  16. rray

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    Well that puts this one to rest for me then. It was tough one though! [​IMG]
     
  17. watash

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    The engineer had been doing some switching using the mainline switch to (break up the string, and re-assemble into a train) set out cars, and had cleared the siding, re-set the mainline switch to traffic for the mainline route, and was ready to depart, confirming this to the dispatcher in the Tower. The remote operator was confirming, "switching, (the) lead", (he pushes the button), "switched" (to align to the main). Done, ok, go away.

    Robert showed a type of switch that does not have a frog. It acts similar to a stub switch by having both rails move.

    These were used extensively inside factories, and in mining, controlled remotely in hazardous areas like arsenals. Considered slow speed for robotic engines (transporters).
    This type of switch could be constructed in the field without having to shear rails for points and make frogs, it is all straight cuts and does not require guard rails. Less expensive than using frogs too.

    [ 02. January 2003, 09:45: Message edited by: watash ]
     
  18. Charlie

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    Before I read the last 2-3 posts, I was ready
    to say it was "Switching Lead" switch is lined
    for the main. Every railroad has its own names
    for tracks eg. at Eola a few of them are
    "Industrial Lead"(which is a switching lead and
    is actually the former MT3 to the old Aurora
    depot) , Back lead, front lead, team track, running track and the most orginal are the yard tracks by the Naperville industrial lead, respectively "Long","Middle" and "Short" tracks denoting their length.

    CT
     

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