Harold, He already has them Check out the "customers photographs" at his website http://www.alancurtismodels.com There you will see a "long Runner" I made from Alan's kits. He includes instructions on how to make the drawbar connection too. Here's some more pictures http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?f=3&i=30283&t=30283 Russ [ 11 February 2002, 04:08: Message edited by: tehachapifan ]