Question about N&W Class J1 in HO

TakeFive Apr 28, 2012

  1. TakeFive

    TakeFive TrainBoard Member

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    I recently saw a Norfolk & Western Class J1 in a video and wondered if an HO model of it was ever created. I understand the road numbers 605-610 were built during World War II as J1 and were later streamlined and reclassed as J after the war. Any help is apprecieated, thank you.
     
  2. COverton

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    Bachmann Spectrum has one, often available as a package with a water tender, or auxiliary tender as they are called. Broadway Limited Imports built the tooling for the first nice non-brass one (to my liking and knowledge) back in 2003/4 or so, then lost the tooling in a court settlement between its arch-rival, Mike's Train House (MTH) and BLI's builder factory which actually owned the tooling. So now, MTH has the nicest J Class (not J1...that is a Pennsy Texas type 2-10-4 or a NYC Hudson 4-6-4). The MTH/former-BLI version is pricey, and you will be stuck with MTH's non-DCC proprietary decoder. It will work on a DCC system, but you will lose much of the controlling features and configuring features because the DCS decoder that MTH insists on using has its own coding and firmware.
     
  3. wildpaws

    wildpaws New Member

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    I have a Bachmann Spectrum N&W J611 that I like a lot, Bachmann has done several engine numbers in this series. I wanted the 611 specifically because I had ridden behind it in an excursion in the late '80s/early '90s and the 611 is currently in the Virginia Transportation Museum in Roanoke, VA near where the N&W J series was originally built at the N&W shops there. Here's a short video of one of the J611's excursion trips:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15PC-st6FvU&feature=related

    Clyde
     
  4. TakeFive

    TakeFive TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks guys, but I really mean Norfolk and Western Class J1, not Class J. I'm getting the reference from "Guide to North American Steam Locomotives" and the video I saw. The J1 was a non-streamlined 4-8-4 without roller bearing rods because of the war materiel restrictions. I would like to know if an HO scale model of the engine was ever made.
     
  5. COverton

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    Ah, I see. I know of no such model in non-brass, and I haven't seen anything in brass, either. Sorry.
     
  6. wildpaws

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    Timelines are very key to this issue, #600-#604 were originally built in '41/'42 and were streamlined with lightweight side rods and classed as J series. #605-#610 were built in '43 without streamlining and lightweight side rods and were classified as J1 series. In '44, #605-#610 were refitted with streamlined shrouding and lightweight side rods and reclassified as J models. #611-#613 were built in '50 streamlined and lightweight side rods and classified as J series. Key Imports had a N&W J1 #600 @$749.00 in brass (painted in railfan colors) but it is incorrect as it is streamlined so not a J1, #600 was a J to begin with and not a J1 version. MTH had a J1 #605 O scale that was without the streamlining and painted all black, that would be correct for 1943. Those are the only versions I know of off hand.
    Clyde
     
  7. dti406

    dti406 TrainBoard Member

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    In the late 80's Sunset imported 75 pieces of the unstreamlined J, according to my Brown Book. They were listed as a J so one has to read the footnotes that it was unstreamlined.

    In all the years since they were imported I have never seen one on E-Bay or at a used brass dealer.

    Rick J
     
  8. TakeFive

    TakeFive TrainBoard Member

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    Thank you all very much for the help.
     

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