Please tell about your experience of using NO-OX and Aero Car Hobby Cleaners.

vadimav Jul 7, 2012

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Does NO-OX and Aero Hobby Cleaner ACT 6006 helps YOU to get less loco stalls?

Poll closed Jul 7, 2013.
  1. NO-OX Yes

    66.7%
  2. NO-OX NO

    29.6%
  3. ACT6006 - YES

    11.1%
  4. ACT 6006 - NO

    29.6%
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  1. SteamDonkey74

    SteamDonkey74 TrainBoard Supporter

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    We did the full No-Ox treatment on the club layout (a place where we had to do the "bright boy" treatment at least once a month before, oftentimes more) and we haven't had hardly any problems since the application back in May. When we do, we simply clean up that area and apply fresh No-Ox.

    Dust is still an issue, but that is more easily removed than tarnish. We have a couple of cars outfitted with pads that remove dust.
     
  2. Henke

    Henke TrainBoard Member

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    Have you tried INOX ? If not familar, goggle will help us finish this conversation.
     
  3. tootnkumin

    tootnkumin TrainBoard Member

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    I've been using it as a lubricant for my models for several years, but hadn't considered it as a track conditioner because of it being a lubricant. Any information would be welcome.
     
  4. Henke

    Henke TrainBoard Member

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    INOX carries several types depending on what your need is. Many slot car track owners use two versions they make. one to keep connections and surfaces corrosive free and another version to keep the metal super smooth but not slippy. Their website describes each product they produce. The company is from Australia but distribute out of Florida. Their products come in spray, rub, soak, etc. many ways to apply to your needs. Many sizes also. Hope this helps.
     
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  5. jhn_plsn

    jhn_plsn TrainBoard Supporter

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    Would you have any links to forums that would explain the specific product? I am talking about forums like this one where the average joe frequents.
     
  6. Henke

    Henke TrainBoard Member

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    John, I have several but they are not on train forums, they are HO slot car racing forums. I believe most of them you have to registar to read all the departments. If you would like, I could PM you the sites ?

    SCI, POS, HT, etc.
     
  7. jdetray

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    I just read the product descriptions on the INOX web site. I did not see anything there that appeared to be useful as a substitute for NO-OX.

    NO-OX -ID "A-SPECIAL" is a conductive grease, whereas the INOX products are specifically described as non-conductive, or for some products conductivity in not mentioned.

    Surely, we want a conductive corrosion preventative for our model railroading application. NO-OX is useful because it inhibits corrosion while at the same time being conductive. In addition, NO-OX is not a general lubricant.

    - Jeff
     
  8. vadimav

    vadimav TrainBoard Member

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    No Ox is not conductive. If You take Om-Meter, You cannot even achieve a GigaOhms!
    As i understood, This grease has a small amounts of organic complexes with Chromium.
    This metal strongly works without any oxydation.

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  9. jdetray

    jdetray TrainBoard Member

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    I respect your measurements with your ohmmeter, and I am sure your measurements are correct, but now I am confused.

    The manufacturer of NO-OX says on their web site (http://www.sanchem.com/aSpecialE.html):

    "NO-OX-ID is an electrically conductive grease that keeps metals free from rust and corrosion. This electrically conductive grease which has been used in the power industry for over 65 years to prevent corrosion in electrical connectors from low micro-power electronics to high voltage switchgear."

    Is there more than one meaning for the word "conductive?"

    Thanks.

    - Jeff
     
  10. jhn_plsn

    jhn_plsn TrainBoard Supporter

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    I will take some time to look some up. It does sound like an Inox product may be useful for some of our needs, but I must consider the different needs. With slot car racing the pickups do not double as traction like out metal wheels of the locos vs the separate tires of the slot cars.
     
  11. jhn_plsn

    jhn_plsn TrainBoard Supporter

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    Here is a working link. http://www.sanchem.com/aSpecialE.html

    Bar Mills also sells a lifetime sized jar.

    I do wonder if you are testing the product as it is designed and if you have the "id a-special". My intention is not to disprove you, but rather better insure the findings as they apply to our uses.

    I used a small amount on my layout quite a few years ago and I do need to dust as the layout is in the garage. I do have to wipe off the less used rails with a cloth here and there, but the mainline usually runs fairly well with little effort. Early last year I did apply no-ox to run in and treat a few new locos so I cannot say that I have gone 5 years without re-application.
    If you read the entire page(link) you will see that it is recommended to burnish the metal before application, so I used most of the gleam method to prepare the rail before using the no-ox as the final conditioning step. In my opinion no-ox is simply another preventive step to help reduce track cleaning chores.
     
  12. vadimav

    vadimav TrainBoard Member

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    I think, that's worth to understand this text as "It makes rails conductive..."

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