Pentax K100D and what lens for modelling

Colonel Nov 13, 2006

  1. Pete Nolan

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    Have fun! A DSLR re-invigorated my long-abandoned dreams of being a photographer! They are just fun, pure and simple! No worries about film costs, instant feedback and great quality at home.
     
  2. Colonel

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    Well here is my new dilemma it is my birthday next month and I want to buy a second lens considering I have a 18 - 50 mm lens which out of these two would you recommend

    1. 70 - 300 mm
    2. 55 - 200 mm

    Considering both a similar in price what do you recommend.
     
  3. Paul Bender

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    For what kind of photography? Are you still talking primarily modeling?

    One of the lenses in my collection is an 80-205, and I find I don't put myself into many situations where the extra reach is really necessary... especially when doing either model photography or railfanning...

    Now, If I were doing more nature photography, the longer reach would certainly come in handy more often than it does for me now....

    Paul
     
  4. Alan

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    I would likely go for the 55-200. You could leave that on the camera for most of the time. Extra zoom length can be good, but with plenty of pixels, if you need to get in a bit closer than the 200mm just crop out the middle area. ;)
     
  5. Pete Nolan

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    I'd go with the 55-200 mm, so that you don't have a gap. I rarely shoot beyond 200 mm, even in the field shooting wild life. I simply can not handhold any lens beyond about 150 mm, even when I crank up the ISO speed to 800. 200 is pretty long (300 equivalent). In 40 years, I think I've gone beyond 200 mm (or its equivalent of 300 mm) for about half a dozen shots, mostly of something like the moon rising. In 40 years, there have been perhaps half a dozen shots where I needed something longer than 200 mm.

    At 300 mm you really have to be prepared for a shot. That means a tripod and a stake-out spot, and a lot of patience waiting for something to occur.

    I've shot thousands of shots at 12 mm. The 12-24 Nikon zoom is my standard lens. Given a choice, I'd go short rather than long. So 55-200 would be my choice, if I couldn't get a wide-angle instead.
     
  6. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thanks guys,

    I actually ordered the 55-300 mm before reading the replies so I've just changed the order to a 55-200mm lense and was able to buy a remote for the camera due to the cheaper price,

    thanks guys
     
  7. Pete Nolan

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    I think you made a wise choice. Next, I'd look at a wider lens than 18 mm before looking at something longer than 200 mm. I carry a 12-24. 24-85, and 70-300. The 70-300 is usually in my pocket rather than on a camera body. I do carry two cameras, which is sort of a luxury, but necessary for surprise shots. And I have an assistant, my wife Jeanne, always ready to catch any lens I'm replacing. Sometimes it's literally a toss, as I fumble through my pockets for a different lens. That's one reason why I like the bayonet mount of a Nikon rather than a screw-mount.

    I've had a 450 mm lens for 35 years. I've taken one shot with it that's worth a damn. I don't even pack it any longer. It's just too big, heavy and clunky to bother with.
     
  8. Colonel

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    Pete,

    Thanks for your advice, I also ordered a remote for the camera, the next items I'll be looking to add are a good tripod and camera bag.
     
  9. Pete Nolan

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    Paul,

    I'd spend money on a good tripod, before I'd spend it on a camera bag. As I've related before, a good camera bag can save your gear when a drunken farmer pulls his tractor out in front of you. But that's happened only once, whereas a good tripod has been used many thousands of times. I spent as much, or more, time choosing a tripod as I did choosing a camera and lenses. My parameters were something I could carry easily, i.e, lightweight, and not break, i.e., robust. I'd simply broken the two previous tripods. This was not cheap, about US $450, IIRC correctly. But it's paid for itself many times over.
     
  10. Paul Bender

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    I think wanting a camera bag may depend on what you want to do with that camera as well.

    I just recently spent some money on a new camera bag because of what I've been doing with the camera lately, not because my old one was warn out (The old one is a metal case with a foam insert, the exteriors on those don't wear out easilly, and the foam can be replaced).

    As to what I've found myself doing lately, when my railfan buddies and I go out for a few days several times a year, we've been doing a lot more hiking than we used to. My old camera case had to be left in the car. The new case is a backpack, so it's much more condusive to a hike (and as a bonus, the new case can carry the computer, which means I can leave the deadicated laptop bag at home, instead of adding it to the clutter in the back of the car).


    I do agree with what Pete says about tripods. I've got a cheap one I bought years ago, when I knew nothing about picking out a tripod. While it works, it just isn't stable enough to use with a long lens, or for timed exposures.

    Another alternative to a tripod is a monopod. They are generally lighter weight than a tripod, and provide enough support to steady the camera for most shots. I find a monopod suitable for my railfan photograph, but not quite suitable for long timed exposures (since you have to at least make sure the monopod stays upright).

    Paul
     
  11. Matthew Roberts

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    Colonel,

    you may want to take a look at this forum for Pentax-related issues:

    PentaxForums.com

    I'm a member there, too. Great forum, uses vBulliten, too. :teeth:
     
  12. Colonel

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    Thanks Matthew I just registered
     
  13. Pete Nolan

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    Paul Bender,

    A backpack camera bag is next on my list! Here's my thinking. If you have a single camera and two lenses, then why bother with a camera bag? I've gone on lots of day-hikes where I knew that a single camera with two lenses was all I was going to need. Usually these hikes, and their photo opportunities, didn't even require a tripod.

    When I got up to two cameras and four lenses, a flash, filters, batteries, and wildlife photography that needed a tripod, and lots of travel to boot, then I needed a bag. I made a poor choice in a shoulder-mounted bag, as I never anticipated being out in the wild. The backpack bags were a little pricey in 2002. After 4 years of toting a shoulder bag around Alaska, New Mexico and other places, I realized that I had made a mistake. Penny-wise, pound-foolish?

    I'm now saving my pennies for a backpack bag.
     
  14. MK

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    Pete, I have the LowePro Computrekker. I love it. I can pack my D70 outfit, my wife's Canon point & shoot, laptop, all the necessary chargers, and even a tripod if I have to. However, it gets heavy!!!!!!
     
  15. Colonel

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    The camera bag I purchased holds the camera with a telephoto and a couple of lenses. It is also a lowepro model is a Nova 1.
     
  16. Pete Nolan

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    I've looked at some of the backpacks mentioned above. Not as pricey as I thought. Still, I'll probably have two cameras always at the ready. I never know when a shot will present itself, and I'd hate to be fumbling with a bag while a bear slips away.

    I'm stocking up on 4GB cards right now.
     
  17. Matthew Roberts

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    How do you like your K100D several months after getting it, Colonel? :teeth: :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:
     

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