Got my short crossing yesterday and to my surprise there were 4 wires sticking out of it! I had no idea I would have to wire it (new to N scale and Peco). If someone wired one of these please help! I wired up a DPDT toggle according to PECO's instructions and got the continuity coopered up with the help of a little buzzer setup I made but there must be an easier way, no? If I do incorporate this crossing in my layout, off which post on the DPDT toggle would the bi-color LED's get soldered to show routing? Thanks in advance! Bill
It depends on what your track layout is like in the vicinity of the crossing, but there is sometimes a simple solution involving connections to other frogs which are already switched.
Bill, In studying this crossing, I suspect it needs to be treated as a reversing loop. Gartner's site has some information that may be helpful http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track_2.htm#a53
If there are turnouts forming a crossover either side of the crossing you can connect two of the wires (the frog wires) from the crossing to the frogs of those turnouts and the other two wires go to your track bus. It gets a lot more complex if you are DC, but knowing the track layout will allow a solution to be identified.
Unfortunately not. This is not a mainline crossover with 2 or 4 other switches involved. This is just a diamond crossing, one lead going to an industry and the other going to a few other industries. Nothing complicated. I guess there are common rails in the diamond itself that are used in both directions. That's why either a DPDT toggle or a reversing module is required. Too bad Peco doesn't make a short diamond crossing in INSULFROG.....
Bill, What is the model # of you diamond crossing? I would like to see a diagram of your layout and how / where you are going to use it
Paul, It's a SL-E 393F short crossing (elecrtofrog) I'm not too computer savvy but if you p/m me with your email address I'll send you drawings of my layout if that's ok.....?
Bill, Check out this thread http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?19922-Peco-SL-E383F-Electro-Frog-Crossing-Anyone-use-one (the link it refers to is bad) And this one http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches.htm P.S. are you doing DCC or DC?
Bill, This is a double slip crossover and I am planning on install a few on my layout. These are tricky to wire ... I recently wired a DPDT for the Peco 3-Way turnout and that was fun also (still need to document it). I have been planning on buying the double slip and figure out the wiring next month. Are you going to manually switch or use Tortoises or something else? Are you thinking about a Wabbits? That is all wrong - duh the SE-E393F is a crossover with no switching so I am looking again ... Peco Electrofrog CrossingWiring a Peco Electrofrog crossing for DCC is straight forward. Refer to drawing #6 that comes with Peco products. Just replace the DPDT switch shown in the drawing with an auto reversing module. The two wires coming into the autoreversing module go to your booster. The two wires coming out of the module go to the frogs of your crossing – one output wire to each frog. No, it doesn’t matter which output wire goes to which frog. Do not use an autoreverser that requires "portals" at each end of a reversing section such as the Loys Toys ARSC.Place an insulated joiner on the four rails that lead away from the two frogs.If you use an adjustable autoreverse module, make sure you set its sensitivity low enough that it will trip before your booster. If you have a non-adjustable one, make sure it is sensitive enough that it will trip before your booster does.
I was gonna say, WOW maybe you know something I don't (lol). Yeah, it's just a plain crossing and it's not attached to any turnouts on my layout as you can see. The question is, do I still need a reversing module??
Bill, According to Gartner's website (that is where I got the extract in my previous post) it is required. But I think I could figure out how wire a DPDT to control the polarity if I can find a good picture of the bottom of the crossing especially where the wires are connected.
I think I figured that out (DPDT). I "breadboarded" it using a home made tester incorporating a 9v battery and a Radio Shack buzzer. It's a LOT of wiring! SOOOOO, I think with the money I've spent already, what's another $26 or so. One less DPDT toggle and a bunch of LED's on the control panel. I like that wiring diagram! THANKS! I gotta tell ya, running the real stuff sure was easier!! Bill
That may be true Robert but my wife enjoys running trains and if she's switching in the yard, it's just one more thing to forget do manually. It's much easier to just spend the $24 or whatever it costs and not worry about it. It's only money.....
