Painting Grass for an RV layout.

Jags Oct 7, 2019

  1. bostonjim

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    very nice indeed thank you for posting and the tutorials as well very nice.
     
  3. Kurt Moose

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    Wow, I don't think I've ever seen the ballast go down first on any layout!

    (y)(y)(y)
     
  4. Jags

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    Thanks for the great positive comments!

    A little more info on the idea and workings of the layout. The layout is based on the theme of a small Train Museum Village somewhere in scenic Germany sometime in the mid 1970's. This concept allows me to run my 1970's period trains along with older steam locomotive compositions of the 1930's and 40's as "museum trains". Over the years I had purchased rolling stock and locos based on what I though looked cool but I never considered that they came from many different time periods. Now that I'm actually building a layout, the "Train Museum Village" solved the problem of running different eras on the same layout.

    The layout has two station areas. A double line "City Station" at the top and a triple line "Village Station" in the middle. It has a side spur on the lower left for parking of the "maintenance train". It also has three spurs to display the "museum trains" next to the Train Museum Building in the middle of the layout. It has a wonderful switching yard to move trains around. It also has a double Mainline that can run 2 trains at a time or a single train in a "folded figure 8".

    In designing the layout there were a few major features that I was looking for:

    1. Small, portable, and light weight so it could be brought along in an RV. It only measures 50 inches by 32 inches.
    2. Scenery "painted" on and all structures and trees removeable for easy storage.
    3. No need for electricity. I use two Ztrack Snail Speed Controllers that run on 9 volt batteries and do switching manually. (Diagram C)
    4. A somewhat elaborate switching yard. I love the look of a switching yard. I really enjoy switching trains to different destinations.
    5. Switching yard easily accessible. Since I'm switching manually the layout has all the switches right in front of me.
    6. Ability to show a lot of engines and compositions from different eras. The layout allows 10 trains to be parked and isolated. (Diagram D)
    7. Ability to run more than one train at a time. I can run 3 trains simultaneously. 2 on the mainline and 1 in the inner station circle. (Diagram B)
    8. A relatively long Mainline. The design allows me to run 2 trains on the mainline (Diagram B) or one train in a "folded figure 8". (Diagram A)
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    What I've put together has fulfilled everything I was looking for in a portable layout. I'm still looking at scratch building the "City Station" and there is still a lot of detail scenery painting work that I can work on in the future. It's great that a lot of the work can be done "on the road" if I so desire. It's been a real fun project and I look forward to playing with it for some time in the future.

    Thanks again for your support and keep the questions and comments coming!
     
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  5. DB_Z

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    Hi,

    This is all looking very good! I would suggest strengthening the edges of your board (wood, foam board or even plastic card) just to give it a bit more protection - portable boards have a tendency to bump into things (I speak from experience). Secondly, have you considered building some small scenic modules that can be removed for storage (say embankments or small hills with the trees/undergrowth attached to them)? That way you might be able to introduce some relief to your flat board.

    Carim
     
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  6. Jags

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    Yes, I was originally planning to build a wooden frame with a plywood bottom to set the foam board into. I may still do that but I really like how light weight it is right now without a frame. I also considered using some angle or C channel aluminum trim but I can't find anything that will work the way I want it to here at Lowes, Home Depot, or Ace Hardware. What I have done is wrap a length of duct tape around the edge to at least give a bit of protection to the sides and edges. You can barely see the beige colored duct tape in the last overhead photo.

    Yes, I have thought of building a small hill that I can put in the upper right hand corner so that my Castle will get a bit more elevation. One of the inspirations for this layout came from a photo of the Burg Ardeck on the Aartal Railway in Germany. Here is the photo that created the inspiration:

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    I'm also considering digging some relief areas into the foam board to make things a bit less flat. Great thing is that these are all easy and fun things to do as the project progresses. For now I'm glad to have the basic work done and trains up and running. More detail work will come in the future.

    Thanks again for all of your comments and suggestions!!
     
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  7. in2tech

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    Parking area looks awesome and so clean. Are those switches on the lower right corner your block controls? DC right? Or DCC?
     
  8. Jags

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    Yes the parking area came out pretty good. Bought some 1/4 inch blue painters tape off ebay to mask the curves. There is some bleed if you look really close but from the distance it looks good. Like I mentioned I did paint the concrete on top of the asphalt to give it some relief and I was quite impressed how well that Woodland Scenics Top Coat paint covers and self levels with just one coat. My other challenge on the parking lot was painting the white parking stall lines. I had no idea how I would be able to make very thin very straight white lines. I found the solution at Walmart with a product from Sharpie. It is a white oil based paint in a special pen with an extra fine point. Was able to make the lines simply against a ruler. Took me less than 10 minutes!

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    I highly recommend this pen for making white lines on your roads. If you make a mistake just cover it up with some of the asphalt paint and do it again!

    Yes everything is simple DC. There are 10 switches that control the 10 red isolation blocks as seen in diagram "D". There are 5 "station" lines and 4 siding spurs. The 10th isolated area on the far right crossing the road allows me to stop an inside "blue" loop train to allow an outside "red" loop train to cross over and enter the inside station area. See diagram "B". I'm still waiting for a couple of power jacks and plugs I bought off ebay to go into the 2 holes in the lower left. I'll be easily able to simply plug in my Blueline Snail controllers into the panel and run everything off of a couple of 9 volt batteries! Here is a photo of working on the wiring. The turnouts will all be thrown by hand. An interesting side note: All the wire I used came from my dad way back in the 1960's. He worked for NASA. It's the same wire that was used in the Apollo Lunar Decent Module. Some real quality stuff!

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    I used a forstner bit to make some quick shallow holes in the foam board and also used a 1/4 inch forstner bit to drill the holes in the acrylic panel. Tried using a regular drill bit in the acrylic but it cracked and destroyed the plastic almost immediately. I read that the trick was to use forstner bits and it worked like a charm!

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    Keep the comments and questions coming. I'll post more photos and hopefully a short video soon.

    Thanks again!!
     
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  9. in2tech

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    Jags,

    Thanks for the info and looking forward to the video! Keep the updates coming.
     
  10. Jags

    Jags TrainBoard Member

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    Resurrecting my old thread. I'm back after spending some time with my synthesizer music hobby!

    Just wanted to post a quick video as I see someone had asked for that. This was just a test to see how many container cars I could link and run properly. It's not what I usually run on this layout! But the video does show how I can run three trains at the same time even on such a small layout.

    Thanks!



     
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  11. JoeS

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    Cool I like the Orient express train video with the tack level view real nice
     
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  12. CNE1899

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    Jags,
    I somehow missed this post. Nice little layout! Good job painting on the different ground covers.
    Nice step by step explanation.

    Scott
     
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  13. SJ Z-man

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    So you then put the track on top of the ballast? That mean uneven surfaces and gaps under the roadbed here and there.
     
  14. Jags

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    Yes, at first, I thought that could have been a problem, but it hasn't been. The track is rigid enough that any small gaps are not an issue. Since this was a "first build" in which I plan to reuse the track in a future larger build, it was more important for me to keep the track clean and reusable. However, I really like the ease, simplicity, and look of this technique and I may do the same thing in a future larger build.

    I think what happens here is that when I first "paint" a strip of the polyurethane on the board it remains relatively thin and level. When I sprinkle the ballast on top of the polyurethane it remains thin, flat, and level. There are no lumps or clumps of ballast like you may get if you apply ballast first and then apply a watered-down glue to make it stick. Then, when you sweep away the remaining loose ballast, what is left remains relatively flat and level and there is no problem with simply laying the track down on top of that.

    Thanks!!

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