ATSF Old Photos

r_i_straw Dec 5, 2011

  1. r_i_straw

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    Grain elevators along the tracks in Dumas, Texas 1943. Arthur Rothstein photo.
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  2. acptulsa

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    LOL NOOOO! Don't bring this thread full circle, back to the beginning! It might end there!!

    Insert narrator voice It ended where it began, in Dumas...

    What a fate! :sick:
     
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  3. r_i_straw

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    Oh my gosh. The old memory bank is failing me. Yours seems to be much better than mine.:oops:
     
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    I was wondering the same thing..."Wait, have I circled around to the beginning of this great thread?" All good. Keep posting!
     
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  5. acptulsa

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    Fortunately, a rerun here and there doesn't mean a series won't be back next season!

    Helper service in Iowa?

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    Before it was a grocery chain, the A&P (Atlantic and Pacific) was the holder of the land grant across the Mojave desert. Former A&P 80 was built by Pittsburgh in 1888, was still working in 1920.

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  7. Hytec

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    That's a very casual hogger, or a really comfortable way to operate in reverse. LOL

    Totally off-subject, originally "A&P" was The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company.
     
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    Wow, what a find, acptulsa! Do you have more information about this photo? That's a nice Baldwin diesel in the lead. I can't make out any markings on the sides of either locomotive. It can't be CGW, as that passenger train is longer than anything they ever ran, and it's a 4 digit road number on the diesel. Double track indicates it may have been C&NW, MILW, or CRI&P.
     
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  9. acptulsa

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    No, this is a Santa Fe thread. Ft. Madison, westbound. Otto Perry made note of the numbers for you. Both are Baldwins; the switcher is 2230 and the Pacific is 3419.

    And I still don't know what was going on. Maybe the station was nearby, or that train weighed heavy going up to the bridge?
     
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    Excellent, acptulsa! I should have known from the category that this thread is in. Duh, on me. Thank you.
     
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  11. acptulsa

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    Not much. I've posted a couple of reruns myself.

    It pays to take an hour to go back over this thread. And it's not at all unpleasant.

    Been too long since anyone posted a Mikado.

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    Leaving Denver, 1920.
     
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  12. acptulsa

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    1918 and 1940 photos show the usual Santa Fe "betterments" that useful engines got. Solid pony truck wheels, modern headlights and bigger tenders were nearly universal, even for engines that never merited an Elesco feedwater heater.

    Improvements in driver counterbalancing were a constant quest. The relatively light 3500s didn't warrant Universal discs, however, not even on main drivers. Several of the class inherited bigger tenders from the 3400s when those got new "square" tenders, but not 3516--at least not yet. The Santa Fe was all about extended tender tanks, and "hand-me-down" tenders when bigger engines got new and bigger ones. A heavy Pacific would get a newly built square tank, and by the time the trickling down was over it could be the tender from a forty year old 4-6-0 that got scrapped.

    Of course, the major "betterment" was the conversion from compound to simple.

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    This 1897 depot was built by the Atlantic & Pacific Railroad and is one block east of the current Flagstaff depot that was built in 1926. World War I era troop train stopping at the depot.
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    Texas Chief between Chicago and Galveston.
    My older brother used to ride this train between Houston and Chicago connecting with the C &NW to Madison when he was a student at the University of Wisconsin. We would take him to the Houston Union Station in the morning. The dining car was open to anyone until just before boarding time so we would eat breakfast with him before saying goodby and getting off the train. I wish I had a breakfast menu.
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    My, how worthless the dollar has become since then.

    Grease for the Goose.

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    Another by Otto Perry, February 1941. There's a popular theory that WWII labor and steel shortages caused her skirts to be discarded, but here she is showing a lot of thigh ten months before Pearl. So, I guess higher hemlines were just in style that year.

    I have no idea what got installed beside her stack that required that lumpy modification to her skyline casing.
     
  16. r_i_straw

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    There was a lot of gear hanging on the side of those stack extenders. Here is one of the same class locomotives without streamlining.
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    Way down at the end of the El Paso branch, 1947.

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    Trivia question: How are this Brill (the Santa Fe never had any of them) and that ALCO related? The link has the initials M & S.

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