No Coal Trains for Rainier

Mr. SP Jun 12, 2013

  1. Mr. SP

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    Last week the environmentalists got their way. The company that was planning on running long coal trains through here changed it's mind. They will not build the coal transfer dock at Clatskanie as originally planned.
    Right now there are oil trains of 100 tank cars going to Clatskanie The oil trains are sure impressive going down the middle of "A"Street.
    The environmentalists complain about possible coal dust but make no mention of the grain dust from loading ships at the EGT terminal in Longview Wn.
    Grain dust can become explosive in the right conditions. Wonder where the environmentalists are?
     
  2. BoxcabE50

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    Maybe we should make arrangements to route our export coal through Canada.
     
  3. Hytec

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    I heard of a company that manufactured plastic windows to fit the lower abdomen of people who needed to see where they were going. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Hytec

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    Perhaps the best wake up call for Oregonian environmentalists would be to prohibit ALL hydrocarbon fuels from entering and being used in Oregon. That would quickly shut down every power plant, manufacturer, wholesaler, and retailer that used and/or sold oil, gasoline, natural gas, coal, and other hydrocarbon fuels. They also would be prohibited from using any electricity from the Grid that had been generated out of state by hydrocarbon-fueled plants. Lastly, they would be prohibited from taking their electric cars out of state for charging. Remember, you can't burn candles when the lights go out, candle wax is also a hydrocarbon fuel. How'd you like them apples????
     
  5. fitz

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    Hank, those plastic windows would help a lot here in Orygone.
     
  6. paperkite

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    It is too bad that Oregon has kowtowed to the enviromentalists .....really , by the time the coal trains coming thru Sandpoint after leaving the eastern coal fields or even mid west and Wyoming, get here the dust is left behind and I doubt that the shifting loads produce enuf dust to be a problem to anyone . Besides the west coast will get back all the exhaust from the Asian furnaces as the trade winds blow it right back here.. then what's the Oregon enviro groups gonna do , sue China ala Asia ???? I do not see them making a stink about it being blown back here ...
     
  7. Mr. SP

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    There are no fossil fuel power plants here in Oregon but one t Boardman in eastern Oregon. Our power comes from the dams on the rivers.
    The environmentalists want to take the dams out too.I ask them is they are ready to get rid of their computer and colour TV. "NO I must have those"is the reply. I then ask where the power for the electronic wonders will come from?
     
  8. Logtrain

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    I hadn't heard of the company that makes plastic windows for the lower abdomen. I have heard of a company though that makes glass belly buttons!

    LOL

    Ryan
     
  9. Logtrain

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    Didn't you know........it comes from the electrical outlet in the wall.

    Sometimes people are so dumb! I once got into a debate with a guy over a beer one night about why groceries and commodities were so high. I explained to him that with diesel (at that time) being almost $5/gal that the price of everyday items would have to go up to offset the costs of fuel. He got pretty irritated and was almost IRATE when I explained to him that all the items he bought at Safeway was trucked in. He told me "NO you are wrong. Safeway gets all the stuff out of the storage area in the back of the store."

    I had to walk away as that dumba$$ obviously was a prime candidate for a "glass belly button" so he could still see when his head was buried you know where.

    Ryan
     
  10. fitz

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    Reminds me of the ad run in a San Francisco paper admonishing hunters for killing game to feed their families. The person who ran the ad stated "You should go buy your meat in grocery stores so that no animals will be harmed."
     
  11. BoxcabE50

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    About ten years ago, a local TV station posed a question to patrons of a supermarket here in town: "Where does food come from?" About 80% thought the store behind the camera was THE source. So few knew there was a food chain beyond, it was quite sickening. True geniuses. Bleh.
     
  12. High Line

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    I did a little extra research on this topic and found that it's not just the environmentalists that were combating this but citizens and the mayor as well. From an article dating back to 2012, a few people seemed to be concerned about the amount of rail traffic that would constantly be running down "A" street effectively cutting the city in half. I'm not sure how true this is as I have never been to the city of Rainier. Apparently there's no way to build around the city either making "A" street the only route.

    The article also mentioned that the town is essentially "down on its luck" and suffering some economic woes (who isn't?). Looks like these trains would have generated an estimated $25 million in taxes and 900 jobs.

    Just though I would share some of the other factors that likely contributed to the company changing its mind. It seems slightly unfair to pin this entirely on environmentalists as it seems the town itself was fairly unwelcoming to the idea.
     

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