New Spanish trains too big for their tunnels

Mike VE2TRV Feb 17, 2023

  1. Mike VE2TRV

    Mike VE2TRV TrainBoard Member

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    I heard this on the radio this morning while having breakfast.:coffee:

    Spain has spent 258 million Euros (about $276 million US) on trains that are too large to fit in their tunnels...o_O

    Story here.

    The blame hot potato is being tossed around the many agencies that are involved in the fiasco (which is what happens when a lot of bureaucrats are involved...).

    Fortunately, the trains are still in the design stage (they were ordered in 2020), but it's going to get expensive to redesign them to fit the tunnels.

    Heads are already rolling...
     
  2. Rip Track

    Rip Track TrainBoard Member

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    Doh! At least the trains haven't been built yet. But still!
     
  3. Doug Gosha

    Doug Gosha TrainBoard Member

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    Why, who would ever consider such a minor thing? Some engineer (NOT train) probably thought, ",,,they can just make the tunnels bigger."

    Doug
     
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  4. gmorider

    gmorider TrainBoard Member

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    Hilarious! Oil the train outside with queso and frijoles. (y)
     
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  5. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Good grief. I am certain there is plenty of blame to go around. It sounds as though some design work had already been done. The designer should have asked for (required) clearance specifications from the start. The government should have supplied that with their proposal data. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  6. Mike VE2TRV

    Mike VE2TRV TrainBoard Member

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    That mess is what happens when there is one agency that operates the trains, another that takes care of the physical plant, etc. etc. and neither talks to the other. The left hand vs. right hand bit, neither knows what the other hand is doing, all the while the feet are stumbling about like Foster Brooks on a pub crawl.

    Then they start pointing fingers (or toes) at the next guy, who point it at the next one, etc. Circular firing squad.
     
  7. minesweeper

    minesweeper TrainBoard Member

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    Follows a similar issue in France when the new model of regional trains was found (after delivery) interfering with the platform clearances, they had to scrape off the platforms in quite a number of stations, obviously creating a larger gap for the other trains.
    I think some of the trains were scraped off by the platforms themselves....
    Yep, like the idea of a circular fire squad.(y)
     
  8. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member

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    You cant make this stuff up. I mean wow. Can you imagine the finger pointing going on?
     
  9. MichaelClyde

    MichaelClyde TrainBoard Member

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    Yea but but but . . the signs outside the tunnel entrances say "No Trespassing/Pedestrians Allowed" SO HOW IS ANYONE GONNA MEASURE D'AT?" See avatar should say "<- Gov't Answers --" (left off quick cliff) . .
     
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