Frank, I'll have to wait to see when I get them. I really don't think that I have the skills to bring them off without damaging the car and I will just have to live with them. I have a few El Cap JnJ resin shells that I’ve been using the past 10 years with the plates on them. I don’t say this very often in my Amtrak modeling, but there is just some things you have to bend on! I think (can't remember where I heard this) some of the step cars (in Santa Fe days, the transition cars were just coaches with stairs going to the single level) could transform from pure to second level passage to step up/down on one side. In the 80s/90s these were just stair cars. I don't know if Santa Fe made that modification or Amtrak shortly after getting them. Amtrak also ran the pure second level door coaches up into the 90s. I hope this answers your question. I have a few places I can direct you to for pictures, but I’m at work so I will have to do it later. If anyone can confirm my words above about the transforming step cars, please ring in. Chris
In 1991, while on an Association of Railway Enthusiasts tour from Australia, I rode from Eugene to Seattle on the Coast Starlight in an ex Santa Fe coach-dorm. There were not enough seats together for the group in the coaches so the conductor let us ride in the coach seats in the dorm car, which we had all to ourselves. I wish now that I had taken more photos, but this was in pre-digital days and I was watching how much film I was using. The thing that sticks in my memory about the car was the enormous size of the men's restroom.
N Scale Supply has some more photos of the individual cars. http://www.nscalesupply.com/KAT/KAT-PassengerEl-Capitan.html
Wooooooooooooooooow!!! For 25 years, I planned on modeling the Santa Fe Pasadena Sub during the 1950s-1960s, and these cars remind me of why I wanted to do that. Jamie
When you are here, you can look at my station set. It is 20 feet long and has 4 terminal tracks and freight bypass tracks. It is also NTrak but uses Red/Yellow and Alt Blue which is why it will never be used with P-NTrak. It is modeled after Martinez CA circa 1954. We must think alike because I have all of those trains too! But boy do the full length passenger trains look good pulling in and pulling out!
David plan on using it sometime next year with P-Ntrak Because I do plan on doing a section soon with alt blue. About 16' if i can. But I can always adapt something to make you module work even if it is making 2 corners to start off with.:tb-biggrin:
Maybe we should conspire.......... My buddy also has a lot of modules built this way, using the the Alt Blue instead of Blue......... We are in the process of making corners too! We really need to have a bit of a discussion! Oh, I will add, we are both DCC guys and designed and built these for DCC operation. And on Tuesday my El Capitan with the 2 add on on cars and the ABBBA locomotive set will be here! But I do not think my passneger station can hold the combo of the El Capitan and the Super Chief.......:tb-mad:
I uploaded a video to YouTube (my first) Just got the set yesterday and couldn't wait to run it. Hope you enjoy! [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_T4xSUHvmQ"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]
Dammit Bill, how's a guy supposed to buy a passenger train in MiNi , if you keep buying them?! LOL Oh, if I could substantiate the purchase......even the Daylight is still calling my name.
Thank you for your answers. I've got some more questions: - Can you please tell me were the A-side of the lounge and the diner is? Or, in other words: Which part of the lounge and the diner ran forward? And why was the lounge BEHIND the diner? The Super Chief had the dome before the diner to avoid the fumes from the kitchen messing up the dome. - Did the passengers travel with their faces facing forward? Or was it pure luck how the seat was facing?
If you mean in the coaches, the seats would have been able to be turned around to face forward whichever direction the car was running.
After looking at some photos The "PACIFIC PARLOR" cars are now smooth under the windows. Might want to try thin styrene and some putty then paint.:tb-biggrin:
M-m-must ... HAVE this ... cannot aff-ff--ORD it <sob> ... and it never ran on my ROAD <choke> ... but m-m-must ... HAVE this ...
