New Atlas engine

Inkaneer Oct 20, 2000

  1. drbooher

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    Here's a webpage with links to pics of SP B23-7's (and an HO model, too.):
    http://espee.railfan.net/spb23-7.html

    The best part is, it shouldn't take too much work to make B30/36-7's. The pages for those locos on the same site discuss the differences.

    Dwight
     
  2. caseyboy94@aol.com

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    pete, at blw confirms b23-7---its a fact
     
  3. Maxwell Plant

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
    I look forward to a B23-7 or two [​IMG] As to a possible B40-8W, Atlas usually releases an N scale version about six months after an HO one, so we can only hope [​IMG]

    As a ATSF/BNSF modeller, I could really use some B40's!

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Let's not forget the Amtrak Pepsi Cans! [​IMG]



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  4. Mopac3092

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    amtrak who said anything about scamtrak. this is about b23-7s not pepsi cans. man this is going to be awesome for me, the mopac had 75 and the nasty southern has a few left after the auctions.

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  5. Maxwell Plant

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    I'm asking if the B23-7 could be used as a base for Kit-Bashing or possible starting point for a production run for one of these Amtrak units. Is the frame the same length? If it is, I could "Bash" one from the Bachmann -8 Body and use the Atlas drive.

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  6. drbooher

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    I just checked the drawings at http://paintshop.railfan.net and the Dash 8 is noticeably longer than the Dash 7.

    Mopac3092-
    Don't forget about the 55 externally identical B30-7A's, the last units delivered in Jenks Blue.

    Dwight
     
  7. ed pinkley

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    i saw the catalog that announced them today.does anyone know if they are taking orders yet?i have 6 preordered allready.man the bnsf has never looked so good.with some sd70 macs around it would be even better.

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  8. Kevin M

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    Man, those BNSF units do look goo! To bad I just sold most of my BNSF stuff. Im might get a SF or UP for run through power but I wuold have rather had Atlas do something else, preferably in BN, Does anyone know if this is a good starting point for a cabless BN b30-7a?
    Kevin
     
  9. Catt

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    Kevin,externally the B23&B30 are identical. I hope that answers your question. [​IMG]

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  11. Mankind

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Catt:
    Kevin,externally the B23&B30 are identical. I hope that answers your question. [​IMG]

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    Welllll.....almost identical! [​IMG] The B23-7 and B30-7A share the same 12-cylinder prime mover and carbody, with six engine compartment access doors per side. But the B30-7 and B36-7 each have a 16-cylinder prime mover, which means a longer engine compartment, which works out to eight engine compartment access doors per side. They are all the same length, but the different prime movers change the door arrangements a little bit.

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  12. NS

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  13. Catt

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    I'm gonna need at least 6 of these puppies. Two for NS two for CSX and two or more [​IMG] for the GVRR.


    It just keeps gettin' BETTER!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

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  14. Mopac3092

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  15. Gats

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kevin D Mumaw:
    Does anyone know if this is a good starting point for a cabless BN b30-7a?
    Kevin
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    Kevin - looking at photos of the BN B30-7AB's and SP B23-7, the long-hood door pattern is all but spot-on, the body step is there, and it's minor changes to the radiator's bodyside grills (Note - there appears to have been additions/changes to these during the late 80's - check photos). Not sure if the rooftop radiator grills are the same, though.
    The equipment/battery box arrangement is 90% with the forward access door having 2 latches on the BN and only one on the SP and appear to be the button type.
    The high short hood should be close enough to a high-hood front, so go with that, and add the slightly wider bodywork in lieu of the cab. The extended-range dynamic box on the roof was only fitted to 4053 up.
    According to the listing I posted earlier, the high-hood undec version comes with knuckle latches, where the BN used button (judging by photos) so the walkway will need ordering seperately.

    I reckon this would be a great project - and one I have been wanting to do some time - and it would require minimal work to complete. Now I have a reason to 'obtain' a couple... at least [​IMG]

    Harold - would you mind sending a right- and left-hand shot of a high-hood unit please? Thanks.

    Gary.

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    [This message has been edited by Gats (edited 22 October 2000).]
     
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  17. mtaylor

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BC Rail King:
    another all american model. Oh well [​IMG]

    Happy Railroading!

    Dane N. [​IMG]

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    Hey, Canada is in America!! [​IMG]

    I just thought I would start that fire again [​IMG]
     
  18. ed pinkley

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    i'm very pleased with the roads that are being released dane.did any canadian roads have these units?if so there will always be a second run.and if they don't do any then custom paint them.

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  19. Kevin M

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gats:
    [BThe equipment/battery box arrangement is 90% with the forward access door having 2 latches on the BN and only one on the SP and appear to be the button type.
    The high short hood should be close enough to a high-hood front, so go with that, and add the slightly wider bodywork in lieu of the cab. The extended-range dynamic box on the roof was only fitted to 4053 up.
    According to the listing I posted earlier, the high-hood undec version comes with knuckle latches, where the BN used button (judging by photos) so the walkway will need ordering seperately.

    I reckon this would be a great project - and one I have been wanting to do some time - and it would require minimal work to complete. Now I have a reason to 'obtain' a couple... at least [​IMG]


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    So, not trying to confusde myself I nered to order high hood undecs, and seperate walkway sill peices with button type things? that sounds easy enough, now lets hope I get that airbrush for christmas.
    Thanks for the advice guys.
    Kevin
     
  20. Gats

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kevin D Mumaw:
    So, not trying to confusde myself I nered to order high hood undecs, and seperate walkway sill peices with button type things? that sounds easy enough, now lets hope I get that airbrush for christmas.
    Thanks for the advice guys.
    Kevin

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    Yep, that's what I reckon is needed. Not sure on the fat/thin anti-climber at this point, but start with the highhood undec.

    Good luck with Santa's delivery! [​IMG]

    Gary.


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