Probably just Kato pantographs... I'm not a rivet counter. I had heard that story about the offer from GE, but some people just treat it as being an urban legend. If it is true, then how did the Milwaukee's board not get charged with criminal misconduct for not accepting the offer from GE? At least I know it's a plausible idea, but if you've ever seen a U50B, you have to admit, there were a little ugly, hboy:.