GN Long hood or short hood?

Jdvass Jan 20, 2007

  1. Jdvass

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    OK - I'm hooked. All I used to run on my layout was CP desiels. But while doing a repair on a friends GN loco, I fell in love with Great Northern loco's. Now I'm running a "what if" scenario where the CP and GN interchange at my home town of Lestock, Saskatchewan. (Even though neither one ran anywhere near Lestock) What I ned to know is did the GN run their high hood GP-7's with the short or long hood forward?
     
  2. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Seems to me they were originally equipped to run long hood forward. Wow. That's a long time ago. Memories are fading some.

    :D

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  3. Dave Jones

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    Never saw a real GN engine, but have read in several locations that they ran 'em long hood forward. Go to an internet souce like "Fallen Flags", look at the engine photos, believe you'll see that little letter "F" on the outside of the walkway.
     
  4. Jdvass

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    Excellent, thanks.
     
  5. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Made a quick pass at a couple of books. Definitely see mostly long hood forward. Which confirms a picture burned into my mind. From years long ago.

    :D

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  6. Kurt Moose

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    You could always tell an ex-GN Geep in BN colors 'cause the white stripes would always be on the long hood!:teeth: GN always went long hood forward until the GP30's arrived. They both interchanged I believed in Vancouver, and along time ago in Nelson, BC.
     
  7. HemiAdda2d

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    That is correct. GN was among a few roads the chose to run LHF.
    The GN (BNSF still does) did interchange with CP at Sweetgrass, MT..... This location was near Alberta, but hey, this is a model RR, do things your way! ;)
     
  8. BoxcabE50

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    GN also interchanged in Canada at New Westminister, BC, and Grand Forks, BC. Gretna, Manitoba, And Winnipeg. Touched Canada at Northgate, North Dakota/Northgate, Saskatchewan.

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  9. SDP45

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    The long hood forward thing started on the GN with the pre-war NW3.
    The complete listing is:

    NW3
    NW5
    GP7
    SD7
    GP9
    GP9m (GN called them a GP5. They were GP9s built by EMD with trade-in FT parts)
    SD9
    GP20
    RS1
    RS2
    RS3
    You can make a case that all EMD/GMD switchers were run long hood forward, as there was no short hood, but lets not be nitpicky here:D
    The 44 tonners had equal length hoods, so they don't count, do they?
     
  10. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thanks for the list, Dan!
     
  11. GNFA310

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    Dan .. you don't list NW2's? Thought GN had some of those as well? Just curious .. :shade:
     
  12. SDP45

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    Yeah, there were NW2s. I made the switcher comment to catch these and the SW1, 7, 8 ,9, 1200, 1500, NC, NW1.

    For giggles, GN classes sometimes differed from what EMD and others called their power.
    Real-----GN
    NW3 was RS1
    NW5 was RS2
    RS1 was RS3
    RS2 was RS4
    RS3 was RS5
    SW1 was SW1
    SW8 was SW2
    NC was SW3
    NW1 was SW3
    NW2 was SW4
    VO-1000 was SW5
    S2 was SW6
    SW7 was SW7
    SW9 was SW7
    S12 was SW8
    SW1200 was SW9
    SW1500 was SW15

    RS 1,2,3, and S2 were Alcos
    S12 and V0-1000 were Baldwins
    Remainder were EMDs
    No model designation for the 44 tonners.
    All other units used the manufacturer type as the GN class.
     

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