What Loco would you like to see produced? Maybe the manufacturers are watchin' I'd like to see a: Life-Like P2k SD60M, CSX ------------------ CSX and HO Scale The Newark Branch RR Ship it the good 'ole way, BY RAIL http://homestead.juno.com/huntertjo
Well, specific model, but a wide-open question. HO: P2K's next logical progression would be the SD60M/I. Roads such as CSX, CR, NS, UP, BN, and BNSF can be done, so it will be profitable. Look for it sometime in the next couple of years. Personally, an AC60CW or SD70MAC would suit my needs. Supposedly Kato is doing the SD80/90MAC, so we'll see about that. For the hobby? A good Tunnel Motor (SD40-2T or SD45-2T) is needed desperately. Remember reading something on Athearn's site, but can't be sure. Also, just about anything steam (starting with USRA locos). N Personally here I'd like to see anything modern. SD70M, SD70MAC, SD80/90MAC (Kato, as mentioned above), AC44CW, AC60CW. Again, hobby needs Tunnel Motors, and also at least some of the modern equipment mentioned. Conclusions This topic tends to show up every couple of months. Rather than a "What do you want to see built?" type of question, how about something like I did? Justifying (sort of ) what models you think should be produced. And C'mon, no manufacturer is going to build a model already produced by another manufacturer. So stop asking for C40-8 variants (I've had no problem in N scale, and most problems are in the gears, NOT the motor. The Bachmann drive is a bear, and with a properly working drive train, it pulls the walls down!). Tune up your Bachmanns and fix up the detail and you have a great loco. Just about any other loco they make is fair game though. You steam guys will have your fill of locos, and just about anything like that is needed desperately. ------------------ Corey Lynch Pres - Rensselaer Model RR Society, NEB&W RR http://www.rpi.edu/~lynchc/Railfanning/railfanning.htm - My Site http://www.union.rpi.edu/railroad/ - NEB&W
I wish the manufacturers would care less if the competition made the same models. What would i like to see? SD70MAC B23/30/36-7 models GP39-2 MP15AC/DC and Cannon & Co handrails for every model made!
More AFFORDABLE and reliable steam in N scale !!This is a huge hole in the hobby and although some manufacturers are starting to produce models, they lag way behind HO. C'mon all you manufacturers, there is money to be made here ! Happy Modeling! John ------------------ The Santa Fe and Southwestern, Chief of the Southwest!!
I'd like to see a P2K quality MP15 in HO. I'd like to see Atlas quality SD24s and GP38s (high hood) in N Also, I agree with JCater. N is seriously lacking in good qualty steam (non-brass). "Look Ahead, Look South"
C32-8 C39-8 C40-8 C40-8W and C40-8M all used the same length frame right. (If you know me you know where I am going with this ) ------------------ Theres no such thing as having to many coal hoppers or GP40-2 when you model Chessie System LONG LIVE THE KITTEN!!! LONG LIVE BIG BLUE!!! LONG LIVE THE TIGER STRIPE!!! (I am one of those wierd Chessie,CR,BN Fans) I looked at DCC... and stayed DC!
My personal HO wish list, in no particular order.... 1. SD45T-2 - Never been done in plastic, and if done right, a maker could tool up an SD45T-2R version, which means even more roadnames from the secondhand market. 2. SD40 - RPP needs lots of work, and kato's are just too rare and expensive. Think about it...if you wanted a good-quality SD40, what do you do, besides fixing up the RPP shell with lots of Cannon parts? That, and there are LOTS of owners and paintjobs that can be done on this unit...and it would work for modelers from 1966 to today. 3. SD45 - same reasons as above. 4. MP15AC - Never done in plastic, and again, enough owners and paintjobs (SP, SP Speed Lettering, MILW, SOO, CP, MKT, UP, LIRR, Family Lines, CSX) to possibly justify doing one. Besides Athearns SW1500, and Con-Cor's crude MP15, how many "modern" switchers are out there? 5. SD35 - I dunno, they just look cool, and my favorite railroad, SP, had them. Heck, if Atlas can do them in N scale, I don't see why not they or another company can't do them in HO. 6. B23-7 - Yet another overlooked GE! There seems to be more interest in GE's lately, this would be the perfect Atlas follow-up to the B40-8. 7. B30/36-7 - Same as above. Paul #3 ------------------ Have A Nice Day! [This message has been edited by Mankind (edited 10 January 2001).]
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harron: And C'mon, no manufacturer is going to build a model already produced by another manufacturer. So stop asking for C40-8 variants (I've had no problem in N scale, and most problems are in the gears, NOT the motor. The Bachmann drive is a bear, and with a properly working drive train, it pulls the walls down!). Tune up your Bachmanns and fix up the detail and you have a great loco. Just about any other loco they make is fair game though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Good points, but a manufacturer will make the same unit if they feel they can outdo a competitor's version. Examples include the F40PH, which was done by Bachmann; Walthers later came out with their own F40PH, which is nicer, IMHO. Also, Atlas is doing this with the B40-8, to compete with the RPP and Walthers versions. With the quality of Atlas products lately, it's almost a forgone conclusion the Atlas B40-8 will be the best. Even though it may not happen right away, I think there is hope for a state-of-the-art C40-8 or C40-8W farther down the road. Paul #3 ------------------ Have A Nice Day!
HO: I don't care, they have many units already and I model N. I do hope they get what they want. N: Most of you know what I want already, but here we go anyway...F/FP45, SDP40F (also the Santa Fe rebuild version), a new F40PH, SD70 MAC, SD75I/M, B/BW40-8 (an Amtrak version too!), GP60/60M/60B, and yes, I too would like a better detailed and driven C/CW40/44-8. I also agree that it is time for N to get more and BETTER steam. <marquee> NO MORE BULLDOG F/E UNITS! THE MARKET IS FLOODED IN BOTH SCALES!</marquee> I feel that if we are vocal enough about what we want at the various Manufactures websites, we will eventually get what we want. ------------------ Brent Tidaback, Member #234 BNSF Railfan-to-the Max and a N-Scaler to boot! Ship it on the Route of The Roadrunners! The Aransas Odessa & Western, a division of the BNSF [This message has been edited by Maxwell Plant (edited 10 January 2001).]
Here's my two cents worth (in N scale): Steam: LIRR G53sd 4-6-0 PRR H9s 2-8-0 or: a generic kit that would make 4-4-2's, 4-6-0's, 2-6-2's, and 2-8-0's with wood or steel cabs, slide, inboard or outboard piston valve cylinders, boilertube, wood, slatted or footboard pilots, oil, arc or electric headlights, coal, oil, or vanderbilt tenders, with fox, andrews, archbar or bettendorf trucks, etc. Diesel: Baldwin VO-100 or S-10 switcher
In response to Paul #3: There is hope, I agree. Atlas doing the B40-8 is a little bit of a surprise to me, as I had spent time on their forum, and they (Paul Graf) continually said they would not produce a model already produced by another company. Also, the Bachmann F40PH is/was only available in Amtrak (and is a very poor loco), where the Walthers version has many road names. The reason is that if they re-do an available model, then another model doesn't get done. For example, C40-8W vs SD45-2T. C40-8W is available, SD45-2T really isn't. You get those people mad who want the SD45-2T, and see the company producing a model that has already been done. Maybe if Bachmann re-worked their tooling, that would be better. Let's face it, P2K, Atlas, and Athearn aren't gonna make all the locos. Brent, there is no such thing as a C44-8, only a C44-9W, which Kato makes/made (good luck getting them). The GP60 series would be good (lots of roads have had GP60s by now, and the "B" and "M" versions would only require slight tooling mods). Looks to me like you're a SF modeler. A B40 series loco would be nice too, as it would give us another Amtrak loco (technically this is a B32-8PWH or something like that, but is externally almost identical to a B40). Maybe Atlas will next do the B40 in N scale and the B23 in HO. Who knows? ------------------ Corey Lynch Pres - Rensselaer Model RR Society, NEB&W RR http://www.rpi.edu/~lynchc/Railfanning/railfanning.htm - My Site http://www.union.rpi.edu/railroad/ - NEB&W
Ah, you must be talking about 9000, 9001, and 9002. These units are C44-9Ws, but had C40-8W carbodies, from what I have heard. Heard this info a long time ago, so I'm not sure if I remember this correctly, but there was some external feature that made them look like Dash 8s. They are Dash 9s according to CSX, so they are Dash 9s (and besides, that's only 3 locos, nobody's gonna do that!!!) ------------------ Corey Lynch Pres - Rensselaer Model RR Society, NEB&W RR http://www.rpi.edu/~lynchc/Railfanning/railfanning.htm - My Site http://www.union.rpi.edu/railroad/ - NEB&W
Cory, Santa Fe had a few 40 Dash 8's upgraded to CW44-8. They look identical to the CW40-8's but not the same HP! So, not to stick my tounge out at you... ...but you're wrong! Ok, so I did stick my tounge out! ------------------ Brent Tidaback, Member #234 BNSF Railfan-to-the Max and a N-Scaler to boot! Ship it on the Route of The Roadrunners! The Aransas Odessa & Western, a division of the BNSF [This message has been edited by Maxwell Plant (edited 10 January 2001).]
CSX had some C44-8W delivered. They were some funky looking things. -8 trucks and Radiators with some -9 stuff mixed in. CSX called them C44-9W anyways because technically (other than the fact they lack split cooling) they are. ------------------ Theres no such thing as having to many coal hoppers or GP40-2 when you model Chessie System LONG LIVE THE KITTEN!!! LONG LIVE BIG BLUE!!! LONG LIVE THE TIGER STRIPE!!! (I am one of those wierd Chessie,CR,BN Fans) I looked at DCC... and stayed DC!
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maxwell Plant: Cory, Santa Fe had a few 40 Dash 8's upgraded to CW44-8. They look identical to the CW40-8's but not the same HP! So, not to stick my tounge out at you... ...but you're wrong! Ok, so I did stick my tounge out! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hold on to that tongue! I think the units you're talking about are classed as C41-8W; IIRC, the only external difference was thicker, Dash-9 style radiator "wings". http://archive.trainpix.com/ATSF/GE/C41-8W/INDEX.HTM has some pics and info on them. CNW also had uprated GE's, classed as C42-8, numbers 8543-8577. They were uprated to 4,150hp at CNW's request, and pretty much looked like the rest of their Dash-8 fleet. I also think UP had some uprated Dash-8's of their own, as well. Paul #3 ------------------ Have A Nice Day!
I'm surprised I beat StickyMonk to it, but I'd really like to see a decent release of the Alco C636, in SP&S paint. For that matter, just about any Alco (FA1, RS2, C415) in SP&S paint! GP9s, F3s and F7s would be nice too! Pat ------------------ Wishin' I wasn't so far from the railroad...
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AKrrnut: I'm surprised I beat StickyMonk to it, but I'd really like to see a decent release of the Alco C636, in SP&S Pat <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <font color="336633">I was in bed last night and i could just tell someone mentioned an Alco C636 but as for SP&S paint.... narrrrrr has to be in Green and black what i would like to see is a rerun of the C424's and C425's by atlas classics... thats after they do a C636 of course </font> ------------------ Matthew wheres all the C636's???? stickymonk.com Matts Photo gallery TrainBoard member #257 [This message has been edited by StickyMonk (edited 11 January 2001).]
Tounge withdrawn! I seemed to have had a "Stroke" last night or something. I thought Alan was Charlie and vice-versa and yes, I ment CW41-8's, not CW44-8's! Two, too many Brain Farts in one day! ------------------ Brent Tidaback, Member #234 BNSF Railfan-to-the Max and a N-Scaler to boot! Ship it on the Route of The Roadrunners! The Aransas Odessa & Western, a division of the BNSF
N SCALE: SD70MAC SD80MAC SD60M GP35 TUNNEL MOTORS!!(SD45t-2,SD38t-2,SDP40-2,ETC) and last but not least, U33C Freight cars: N scale anyones not yet produced, and hopefully NOT MicroScale-"like" priced. ------------------ TrainBoard.com MEMBER#204 THE WEB PAGE IS NOW UPDATED!! Appalachian & Atlantic Model Railroad "QUALITY at WORK with SAFTEY in MIND"
