Las Vegas to Los Angeles, actually happening?

BoxcabE50 Apr 23, 2024

  1. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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  2. Metro Red Line

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    Guess so, but my main concern is that it's not a full-fledged actual HSR service. From what I know, the line will be primarily built as single-line (which is pretty ridiculous if you compare it to double-tracked Shinkansen/TGV/ICE or even Amtrak Acela service), with presumably a few passing sidings. And Brightline doesn't even have a rolling stock contract locked up (apparently it will either be Alstom or Siemens). But saying "Los Angeles to Las Vegas" is a vast simplification - the west end of the route will be in suburban Rancho Cucamonga (there is an existing Metrolink commuter rail connection to Downtown Los Angeles - but no direct connection to Anaheim or Azusa :D), and it takes about 1 hour 15 minutes. At the opposite end, the Las Vegas station is much closer to the Strip relatively speaking, yet still three miles south of the heart of the Strip, with no planned transportation connection aside from a city bus and rideshare app options (for those of you accustomed to walking 3 miles, you probably wouldn't want to do it in 120-degree Mojave desert heat).

    They expect to finish this "in 4 years." I highly doubt that. Most of the right-of-way will be in the median of Interstate 15 and will not interfere with any existing UP or BNSF freight lines. But you'd expect the ROW to be cleared for construction right now, and it's not even in that state yet (I went to Las Vegas by car last month).

    I'm actually very pro-passenger rail and very pro-high speed rail (and I would totally ride this when it's ever finished), it's just that the Brightline folks haven't convinced me they'll do this on-time, on-budget and without any snafus.
     
  3. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Maybe a bit of "grandstanding" to aid them in pushing their agenda forward?
     
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  4. Hardcoaler

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    I seem to recall that when the UP ran this route with a passenger train, it was nicknamed the Crapshooter Commuter. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
     
  5. Metro Red Line

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    Definitely a lot of PR fluff to sell it to the public, plus the allure of a private company doing this (albeit with the Federal government fronting 1/4 of the $12 Billion cost. I just know at some point the price is going to spike higher due to unforeseen delays and the like.

    California's own intra-state HSR, as you know has already been fraught with delays and cost overruns. But at least that one will be built as a proper double-tracked HSR service, albeit IMO it's over-engineered (there's so many elevated sections in the flat rural farmland of the starter route through Central California), and that one could have been built with a simpler, shorter, more direct right of way, but elected officials (of both parties) wanted it to run through their districts so they can claim it as part of their legacies. There are long-term plans to connect the two via a branch running between Palmdale and Victorville, but we don't know whether the two will share overhead wire voltage requirements so they can run compatible trains between the two systems.
     
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  6. HemiAdda2d

    HemiAdda2d Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    It was featured in my local news yesterday. Wow!
     
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