Kato White LED's - Again!

Alan May 24, 2000

  1. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Today I removed the rear LED's from my Kato SD40-2 'snoots' (I don't need back-up lights), and put one of them in my early (BN) SD40-2, and the other in a C44, the replaced LED's from these two I put in the place of the white ones removed. Does it matter if the rear one is just removed, or will it make the loco. run faster in reverse?

    In another C44 I installed a white LED bought here in England for £2.95 (about $4.50), to see how it compared with the Kato ones. Great! It was if anything, a bit brighter! So I will now be fitting these white lights to all my units.

    Craig, I have also obtained some fibre-optic cable, so will be changing lights to the low hood on my BNSF locomotives. BTW you said that the light fitting was a Pyle dual Gyralite, surely this should be a 'normal' dual Pyle, late type? These are the ones I have used till now.

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  2. Craig Martyn

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    Hi Alan! I'm using the Dual Ocsilating Headlight-Pyle by detail associates, they have it as number 8218. It looks right to me.....? But who knows.

    About the backing up and going faster, that makes sence but have never experienced that due to the fact that I just solder in old yellow back up's.

    DigiKey.com has some white LED's. I think that they are around $3.00 a piece.

    Any way, have fun with those white LED's and fiber optics!! Let me know how things went!

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  3. sd75mac

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    Alan & Craig, Digi-key has the white LED priced at $2.77 for 10 or more. I just ordered another 10.

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  4. Craig Martyn

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    I did to Harold! [​IMG]

    They improve C44's GREATLY!

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  5. BC Rail King

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    Could some one sugjest how to make some Ditch lites with LEDs on my ATLAS SD60s?

    Thanx!!

    Dane N. [​IMG] [​IMG]

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  6. mtaylor

    mtaylor Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BC Rail King:
    Could some one sugjest how to make some Ditch lites with LEDs on my ATLAS SD60s?

    Thanx!!

    Dane N. [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    DITTO, I have been wondering about the same thing.
     
  7. Craig Martyn

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    That's a tough one!! I'm not sure how small LED's come, but there might be some small enough to make ditch lights.

    Here's what I did, I ran fiber optics from the supplied LED to porch mounted ditch light housing that I scratch built. The only draw back is that I had to drill two holes on the nose for the fiber optics to go through.

    But hey, I HAVE WORKING DITCH LIGHTS (PORCH MOUNTED) ON AN SD60M! And on top of that, I scratch built SD70M trucks for it! It's an SP SD70M!!!!

    Good luck!



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  8. BC Rail King

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    MTaylor, I found a person in Vancouver today that did it succesfully! When I get details from him I would be glad to share them with you. What I know is he used Minitures By Eric, and a SMALL LED, it was a quote "Whiteish Blue" LED, but since it was small it looked good!

    Details to come........

    Happy Railroading! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    DANE N.

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    Craig Martyn TrainBoard Member

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    Hey Dane, don't U mean small LED's.....plural, or did he use just one??



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  10. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Porch mounted ditch lights are a pain! Frame mounted ones like UP uses are easier to light using fibre optics. Craig, did the fibre optic show above the deck on the ones you did? I was considering trying perspex for ditch lights as this can be angled and polished, so the fibre could come up from below the deck. Anyway, that remains to be seen!

    But if I am having bright headlights, I MUST have ditch lights as well [​IMG]

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  11. mdrzycimski

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    Has anybody tried the lighting kits by Richmond Controls? The URL is www.richmondcontrols.com They are a little pricey but offer two headlights and two ditch lights in one kit. The ditch lights can even be alternately flashing!! He uses lens-end micro lamps (grain of rice bulbs). The whole circuit fits in the shell and gets power from the two metal frame halves. Look at the web site. I saw them in person at a local train show and Man, did they look impressive!! He had it mounted in a Kato C44-9W. Take a look.

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    Does the Richmond Controls module work well with DCC?

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    Their web site says that the modules are DCC compatible. I don't personally own one of their lighting kits nor do I run DCC so I can't comment on how well it works with DCC. [​IMG] I am, however, thinking about buying one of their kits. [​IMG]

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  14. Colonel

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    I received my SD40-2 snoots the other day and I'm so impressed with the white LEDS. I will seriously consider upgrading my existing fleet to white LEDS. I have SD45's, SD40's, C30's and GP38. Can I use the new KATO LEDS on these older loco's?

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  15. Gats

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    I'm going to regret saying this, but yes! [​IMG]
    The 38 will need the resistor added on board since it uses an incandescent lamp.

    Gary.
     
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    It wasn't very long ago, people were blowing off the white LED's. Now is seems these little buggers are gaining in desireability.

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  18. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Ha, Ha, Ha. You guys didn't listen to me when I posted how great they are [​IMG]

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  20. BC Rail King

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    The white LEDs rock! They are alot better in N scale than HO scale, shutter.

    He He He

    Dane N.

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