Kato Big Boys are out

Trains Jun 1, 2023

  1. BigJake

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    Ditto! Especially since it could be prototypically correct, even while dragging intermodal well cars/containers around my layout!
     
  2. BNSF FAN

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    Excursion / Public Relations is my excuse for wanting to have one running amongst the ALC-42's, P42's, Gevo's, ES44's and SD70ACe's :D
     
  3. Hoghead2

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    There's someone just run one at our current three day running session , looks , sounds and runs terrific. Guy came straight from the trade stand , and asked could he put on the point of a train i'd just assembled and borrow my throttle!! Normally i'd raise up my 300lb frame and growl at him, but he was so excited. When I saw what he'd got , so was I!
     
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  4. BNSF FAN

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    Well, we are a week into March. I wonder if the end of March is still going to happen or not?

    I haven't seen a whole lot posted about factory DCC w/sound version posted but other than grumbling about the plastic valve gear, what very little I have seen seems to be positive.
     
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  5. Atani

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    Very likely yes it is doable. I reached out to where I pre-ordered mine (DCC+Sound) and heard back within about 20 minutes that mine is ready to ship pending processing of payments. Mine is supposed to ship out today.
     
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  6. C&O_MountainMan

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    Hey, If they’re good enough reasons for Union Pacific, they’re good enough for BNSF FAN, right?
     
  7. MGAR2112

    MGAR2112 New Member

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    I received mine with DCC+sound and it's fantastic. It runs great like Kato usually do and the sound is really well done in my opinion. I know I would have regretted not getting the sound version.
    All the retailers I was tracking either still show the DCC no sound version as preorder or don't list it at all yet.
     
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  8. Atani

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    Kato themselves also list the DCC only version as "spring 2024" so who knows when they will actually ship. I was expecting the DCC only version to come out before the DCC+Sound version since it is likely simpler to handle since it has less components to squeeze into the loco
     
  9. MGAR2112

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    Totally agree. After watching videos of how the DCC+sound installation goes, you'd think just DCC would be easier.
     
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  10. C&O_MountainMan

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    Simpler and easier might have nothing to do with it - different decoders are used between sound & non-sound. If the non-sound deciders had some QA problem, or sone fit-up problem the sound decoders didn’t have, they would move on with finishing the sound units while getting things resolved on the non-sound.
     
  11. Trains

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    Kato Big Boy with 36 cars , Micro Trains and Atlas.
    That's all I had on the layout.
    19 inch radius curves.

    Don

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  12. MK

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    WoW!!! :eek:
     
  13. Ajayrav

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    Does the DCC sound version of the Kato Big Boy have an operating reverse light? I know the regular DC ones don't. Thanks in advance.
     
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  14. freddy_fo

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    No reverse light on the sound version:(
     
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  15. Ajayrav

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    Surprised that there's no reverse light given the price. Oh well!
     
  16. freddy_fo

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    I don't recall any of my Kato steam having operating tender lights. Mikado - GS4 - FEF. You could install your own I guess but seems like more work than it's worth.
     
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  17. MichaelClyde

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    Check this out! 1/7th scale . . .

     
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  18. Tom4884

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    There's a few surprises, like no socket for DCC or really any provision to add DCC to the DC version without a lot of effort. Also, they are still using truck mounted couplers on the rear of the tender as well as no provision for a working pilot coupler at all. It is a very nice locomotive and runs very well, but things other manufacturers have done YEARS ago have been ignored by Kato. Con-cor had plug in decoder capability in their S2 4-8-4 over 20 years ago, and Athearn had a working pilot coupler and a reverse light in the tender 16 years ago. Given the price of the Kato, I expected more from them. Just my $.02 worth.

    Tom
     
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  19. Atani

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    Included with the loco is a front coupler kit to swap it out for a double header usage. Though I don't think that was done very often in the prototype.

    Overall I'm fairly happy with the DCC+Sound version that I picked up, I got it well below MSRP as well. From my testing it is a fairly decent runner as well.

    Here is a very short video clip https://photos.app.goo.gl/2VyT6JTnXutNrDxU6. I was testing it as part of validating a couple bug fixes on the MRC Nexxt Gateway that were reported last night, controlled via a UWT-50 in LCC mode and a Prodigy Advanced2 system powering the track. I need to adjust the function mappings sent to the throttle (it defaults to a diesel function set rather than steam) but otherwise it worked pretty well on the very short track (only ~3ft long total with the siding setup as the PROG track).

    I'll be building a six foot long shelf to display it on with the rest of the excursion consist (two water tenders, seven passenger cars, UP 4015). But that will wait until I install the decoder into the UP 4015 and build a bit more of the On30 layout that is replacing my N scale stuff (some of which that has been sold paid for the Big Boy)
     
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  20. BNSF FAN

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    Well, it's not looking like there will be a BigBoy with factory installed DCC in my Easter basket this weekend.....
     
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