Indian Rock fall 1979

VinceP Nov 11, 2023

  1. VinceP

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    Here's the history I've concocted as the real WNW lasted from 1912-1940 last rail was pulled up in June 1941

    So, this is proto lanced as if it started in the mid 1800's and is a current major class 1 railroad.

    Anthony & Northwestern 1859-1860

    name changed at the beginning 1861 when the A&N fell on hard times due to poor management.

    Wichita Northwestern 1861-Present

    Founding Members
    Augustus Moore
    Gulf Coast Trading & Shipping
    WNW 1st President

    Archibald Clark
    bank Financier
    WNW Financial Officer

    Cornelius Wright
    Construction Sales
    WNW B&B

    Elijah Morris
    Equipment Sales
    WNW Equipment Procurement

    A&N Chartered 1859
    Financial Instability late 1860
    Name Changed to WNW after Gulf Coast Trading and Shipping Buyout

    lines had been built radiating out from Wichita in becoming a viable Ks player.

    Wichita-Topeka-Leavenworth Ks
    Wichita-Newton-Salina Ks
    branches radiated from
    Newton-Great Bend Ks
    Newton Dodge City Ks

    as progress was made the WNW and the ATSF became bitter competitors.

    The WNW almost stretched to its limits building to Chicago from KC and west to Colorado enroute to the Northwest via subsidiaries and its own rail into Utah, Wyoming Montana Oregon and Washington territories.

    As the WNW had already gained its access into Oklahoma and Texas

    And the rail mile for mile took on a whole new meaning in the territories as both roads were racing to get their fair share of the expansion to the West.

    building new frontiers new towns new cities popping up along the routes with new business being brought in and shipped out.

    In 1969 the WNW and the RIS (Rock Island Southern a real defunct rr) indicated to the ICC their intent to merge the RIS into the WNW.

    This came about as the UP and the RI were in serious talks to their Merger intentions.

    The WNW like the UP was well heeled where the RIS was in somewhat better physical plant than the RI.

    the RI was desperately looking for a suitor in the UP and it was never to be as the UP walked Away.

    the WNW looking at having a lot of traffic diverted from its system looked at the RIS as a merger partner from an operational standpoint to protect itself from the UP.

    the WNW-RIS merger intent was announced on Tuesday June 3 1969.

    Sent before the ICC on Wednesday June 25 1969 for hearings of intent.

    the WNW sent a letter of intent to EMD and GE that new units ordered by the RIS were to go through WNW channels as the WNW was going to be the current Operator of the RIS pending ICC Merger approval.

    The WNW sent a memo out to all RIS personnel that all new units for now would be coming in RIS paint lettering but with WNW sub initials of ownership.

    Also, the WNW would be investing money into the RIS infrastructure to bring it up to WNW operating standards.

    A Group of GP/SD40-2's came in WNW Blue and Grey but carrying Full RIS lettering in the mid 1970's as these units were diverted to the new RIS Chicago-KC-Gulf Coast route.

    Which is one of the new top routes on the RIS to get priority heavy rail new ties and soil base reclamation to bring the infrastructure back including double tracking a lot of this route along with newer longer sidings for the new intermodal services that were booming in 1970's.

    other roads such as the KC&G asked for and were granted trackage rights per the ICC agreements we approved.

    the merger was finally approved on Friday April First 1977.

    As the PC financial collapse really played havoc with the ICC approving mergers.

    with no rush to repaint units that have good RIS paint the WNW only added WNW initials on those RIS units.

    RIS units in need of paint are on a case-by-case basis, wrecked GP5-7-9-18 when rebuilt will receive upgraded components and a new low nose.

    on Wednesday January 3 1979 the Red River & Gulf (my version of the Frisco) and the WNW were granted merger approval.

    the Red River and Gulf is another real defunct railroad.
     
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    Have an update when I get the first new module redone
     
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    First new module is about 3/4 complete hope to post pics soon
     
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    So with the module with slow progress happening

    I'm going to include scenery and structures here

    This arrived in the mail today I'm hoping it to be a bigger part of my grain coop

    It will be altered to my needs grain bins added spider elevator added trucks will feed the main coop elevator, bins and load out from the feed mill
     

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    That's a cool kit Vince!
     
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    Going to get modded as part of a bigger facility with the walthers coop grain elevator bins ect ect

    You build the n scale version
     
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    I'm seriously considering it sir. Just have to create a place for it. :D
     
  8. VinceP

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    I see how the BuNSaFe is :ROFLMAO::D:sneaky::whistle:
     
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    More mail goodness
     

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    Working on the modules still laying out on paper my ideas to see if they work

    Starting soon I hope
     
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    So after several thoughts and figuring things out the WNW is going to become a jointly owned shortline

    With my original Indian Rock and a friends Pacific Midland

    Just can't seem to get the wnw to work as a major class one hence becoming a small regional primarily based in Kansas
     
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    Sounds like a neat change Vince and something that just might give you even more possibilities (y)
     
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    Thing is I just can't get past it in reality of being a shortline in its days

    Plus I'm still tempted to go Eastern/Southeastern
    Have 5 hh GP30 1 hh U30B 3 hh SD45 1 hh SD40-2 1 GP40X
     
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    You can never go wrong with a little Southern Railway action sir.

    If I wasn't modeling more modern day BNSF, I'd probably be ding the Southern as well.
     
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    It would still be freelance if I went high hood but these are my connections to the real world pool/lease/run-through
     
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    And here's some of my high hood power couple need repaint

    Going on hiatus for a little bit woke up this morning stood up and almost passed out

    So going to lay low for a bit some vacation huh

    Excuse the pics I take them correctly they show Correct orientation until I transfer the here they go sideways

    Just doesn't make sense oh it is what it is
     

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    Okay after being sick as a dog and finally getting my wits about me again 4 days of sitting up and my head doing the spinning

    Once I get my bearings I'll have a more thorough update
     
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    I have an old atlas-roco hh gp38 got some thoughts on this still runs great

    As I'm planning on replacing the cab sub bases, cab, nose, blower housing, dust bin, grills, long hood end, fans

    With cannon parts yeah I know I could just buy a newer atlas GP38 but where's the fun in that

    Any thoughts before I torture this unit under my power builds
     
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    You hit that nail right on the head! That's where the all fun is! :)
     
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    Thanks I asked for thoughts on another site all everyone could say was buy the new atlas GP38

    I could but why when this roco version runs like a Swiss watch just the shell needs attention

    I never noticed till I looked at this gp38 there's only a partial brake ratchet in the short hood plus the steps on the cab subase are lacking
     
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