BoxcabE50, my potential space happens to be 10 X 13 too. Small world, huh? I have the N Scale magazine with the multi-level Avery trackplan in it, in fact that plan showed the coaling tower that started much of my recent questioning! I'm more interested in modeling a shorter section; basically from Loop Creek out through St. Maries and incorporating the Elk River branchline. I'm hoping to leave a fair amount of space open for just a little track and lots of trees..... If I can ever draw the silly thing out I'll see if anyone wants to review it for me. I'll also pursue your leads on Billings and on the boxcab diagrams. If I find anything I'll post a notice to the group and include pictures if it doesn't violate anyone's rights. Geared Steam, that link is exactly what I've been looking for! Thanks!
Avery Yard is approx. 7 metres (21 ft) and winds itself through the room. I hope to make better and more detailed photos soon. Michael
For an article about Avery, including track plan look here: Milwaukee Road Archives and click on "Don Sims, "The Terminal at Avery," Model Railroader, 1973." (If you haven't found that already) This is a great article that shows many details I haven't found anywhere else. enjoy Michael
Thanks CMStP&P, Geared Steam had pointed me to the same article on Friday as well. It's interesting to note how much had changed by 1973 such as the shorter roundhouse and no marking at all for coal, oil or even the old icing platform. I'm slowly trying to piece together a timeline of changes at Avery. I'll post it if it ever gets to a publishable point and if it would be interest to anyone else. Thanks again all for the help and information. This group is a wonderful place to be.
Need for coal went away after steam engines were retired. Then rotary plows were modified to run off catenary or a diesel power unit. Boxcab E50
Dang Box-your memory serves you well...as does my water closet archives. Kindly flush after leaving the station. Railroad Model Craftsman January 1971 Milwaukee's Boxcab Electrics Pages 39-41 Drawn by Lawrence Jackman and Dale Jewell Includes photos and drawings of EF and EP series Boxcab electrics-GE. Photos are not the best (B+W halftone) and the drawings are of the top, front, back and right side in HO scale with measurements. The same magazine has a great article on modeling trackside industries in Wisconsin and Iowa. Great feed mill in Waukesha, former brewery in Burlington, IA and other places in Jefferson, Humbird and Palmyra, WI and Muscatine, IA. I won't let my copy go, and the pages are still copyrighted, so I won't scan/upload the pages. But, there should be copies of the pages available directly from Kalmbach, or they may give you permission for copies to be made. -Mark
Thanks Box and cmstpmark. I'll ping Carsten's and see if I can get copies of those drawings. I was also thinking of checking with GE in case they have any archive material regarding the boxcabs.
I would certainly hope that GE material is somewhere archived, safe for time and access. If dumped, that would be tragic, lost for all future generations. Boxcab E50
Just to follow up, I re-contacted Carstens about the article again just before the holidays, this time providing my mailing address. This week I received a photocopy of the article in the mail and now have some good drawings of the boxcabs. I've already reduced them to N scale. I'm impressed with Carstens for sending these, and also the care with which they made the photocopies so that all of the drawings, text and pictures are clear and not distorted.
BTW-I just ordered and received the 3rd quarter, 2000 back issue of The Milwaukee Railroader. I bought it for reference on the, "Bulldog" motorcars but found that it came with an excellent article on Avery, ID. There were several photos of the 20's and towards the end of the line. There were also several aerial shots from the late 60's. At $10, you really can't go wrong. Link: Milwaukee Road Historical Association -Mark PS-Hey Box, did ya ever party at the Hotel Idaho? I like how it collapsed a few months after it closed.
No. Sure didn't. Ha ha. I have always thought that if it still stood, there might be a clientele for them today- Sportsmen, hikers/bikers and wandering history buffs. Once they started running on through to St. Maries, need for it quickly started declining. Boxcab E50