This thread (and a few of it's posters), are why I rarely visit Trainboard, which saddens me as it, like Atlas, were the two forums I was active in for a very long time years ago. The production issues with China are so well known at this point, it's ridiculous that this still comes up. Every single manufacturer had production issues with China due to one plant having some major issues. It's why the FVM GP60s were delayed, for example. Even Athearn's HO line was backed up for years, and is not just getting back up to speed. From my understanding, Atlas' track needed some retooling at the same time the production issue popped up. Yes, there is a shortage of track. It is coming, and Atlas has come on here stating as such, and yet the same handful of posters completely ignore those posts, and continue to bash production delays. Delays which are cleaned up, and items are being produced and shipped as we speak. And we wonder why the sales reps at shows like Trainfest roll their eyes. It falls on deaf ears anyway with some of you.