WP GP18s vs GP20s, DCC

CHARGER Jan 26, 2006

  1. CHARGER

    CHARGER TrainBoard Member

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    Looking at High nose WP GP-20s vs, GP-18s and was wondering what are the main differences between them other than the number of turbo stacks. Also how difficult is it to put a Decoder in the LL GP18?

    Brad
     
  2. daniel_leavitt2000

    daniel_leavitt2000 TrainBoard Member

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    They use the same mechinism
     
  3. Pete Nolan

    Pete Nolan TrainBoard Supporter

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    GP-20 low-nose is not too bad for a decoder. You do have to mill out a spot for the decoder, and I think it's best to mill out a little space around the brush caps for the orange and gray motor leads.

    This site can be an invaluable help:

    http://www.trainweb.org/nrmrc/dcc/conversions.html
     
  4. johnh

    johnh TrainBoard Member

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    One thing that may need clarification. While the GP20 has always been a split frame mech, it hasn't always been so with the GP18. The older version has a plastic frame and lead weights. Conversion will be a little different in this case
     
  5. Powersteamguy1790

    Powersteamguy1790 Permanently dispatched

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    Charger:

    It's relatively easy to place a decoder in the LL GP-18 split frame mechanism.

    Mill out the frame for a decoder preferably a Lenz mini- gold series decoder which is the smallest decoder on the market today and wire it which is straigh6t forward.


    Stay cool and run steam..... [​IMG] :cool: :cool:
     
  6. Gats

    Gats TrainBoard Member

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    Brad, GP20's were the first turbo'd 4-axle EMD with a single stack where the GP18 is normally aspirated with twin stacks.
    There are notable differences in the body between the pair so a GP18 will not truly represent a GP20. But....

    The LL GP20 is low-nose only where the GP18 is (was?) available in both high- and low-nose.
    The conversion is a simple one. I have done four to date, three using a high nose from an Atlas GP7/9 and one using the high nose from a first run LL GP18.
    I have a page for doing this conversion. Currently it's not uploaded to the new server but give a day or two and I'll get it in place, then look at the following page;

    http://members.optusnet.com.au/~audiosat/modelling/howto/wpgp20.htm

    The DCC'ing of these has been ably answered above. [​IMG]

    edit - page linked above now online.

    [ January 26, 2006, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Gats ]
     

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