Hemi, Love all the photos! They have helped me with ideas for my version of Northern Montana line. Do you have any photos of the concrete abutments used on the bridges. I'm thinking of modeling the Belt Creek trestle or something simular on the line. Rick
Rick, First of all, Welcome to Trainboard!!! I have a couple of views, but never really shot the abutments for that purpose. Belt Creek Trestle: Red Coulee Trestle: I think that's all I have that will help you. If you need more photos, I might be able to drive out and grab more pics. It's only 25 miles.
Have enjoyed reading this thread. I live in Ohio and have followed the old abandoned Erie Main Line across Ohio and taking pictures. One thing that is really neat is to go on Google Maps and get a satellite view of railroad tracks. If you know what to look for and I'm sure anyone that understands how railroad grades are built, you can easily follow the abandoned right a ways on the google map..
Thanks Hemi, Looks like the Belt Creek trestle does not have the usual arched concrete abutments. That's OK, my design won't have the tunnel right next to the trestle. It would be more like the Red Coulee trestle. Thanks again, Rick
No prob, Rick! If you want shots of the unique MILW style abutments, see here:may252004 I went camping at Sun Canyon 25 miles from Augusta, MT this weekend, and managed to grab shots of the Choteau depot, and a couple other findings. Pics soon...
Which RR owned depot? I'm guessing the GN office? Any time for checking around to spot the two ex-Milw depots allegedly still in town? Boxcab E50
I bagged one that looked like a truncated freight house, and another which serves at the Choteau community center. I didn't have time to check around town more closely for GN stuff, but my tour guide, a buddy that accompanied me on a Spokane trip last may (remember the Lines West documentation trip?), didn't know much GN history in that area. DC did bag a shot from the car on a neat little building: "Milwaukee Road Storage". No affiliation, I'm sure, but the sign was cool. We did bag a MILW feather switchstand in C-town, the end of MILW track that still serviced by BNSF in Fairfield, and a couple MILW cars serving as dilapidated sheds near Simms. I wanted to get shots (but there wasn't time, and the kids were not going to allow me to make many stops) of the trestle piers on the (MILW?) line to Augusta. We spied a set of 3 piers near the town: 47.485486,-112.387495
Hope to see some photos! The line to Augusta was actually GN. I'm trying to remember how the Milw got out of GF, towards Agawam. Been too long! They had some trackage rights.... WS Jct and Vaughn??? Then there were track coordinations Emerson Jct-Dracut Jct, and... Too many years now. :tb-sad: Boxcab E50
This is where I grew up! And later lived in the trailer park on the north side of the ROW. The spur into the CGI (now) Columbia Grain (then) was extened by the BNSF after the MILW ceased operations. You can see where the track jogs to the right, that is the original alignment (about half way down). It was a single track spur to just past the elevator where the MILW had a second storage track. The line east of 25th street was severed after BNSF realigned the "Mill Line" and the former Fort Benton Sub line down by the river, which now runs over the realigned "Mill Line". Back on your roundhouse photo I remember the round house before it was demolished. I don't recall it being used. Also the large "machine shed or shop foundation" was actually the engine maintenance facility that was in use during mid-late 70s. Some days, I sure miss living in Great Falls!
Going off subject for a second, this is one of my favorite threads on Trainboard, shouldn't this thread be a "sticky" along with my other favorite thread? (by Hemi as well) . :tb-wink: I'm don't know the criteria but it documents (very well I might add) the NMD as does the Rocky Mountain Division thread? Props to Hemi and Ken for the pictures and the history lessons, I have learned a ton from these discussions. My Humble Opinion.
Hey Hemi, I'm planning on building a diorama and your photos of the Belt Creek trestle and tunnel have inspired me! I'm wondering if you have any more detailed photos of the approach abutments. I'm on the lookout for detentions of this fine looking trestle as well. Thanks for your contribution to preserving memories of the Milwaukee Road NMD!
Here's an interesting aerial view of the Red Coulee area. If you pan out, the other features are called out on the map as well, including the tunnels and Belt Creek trestle. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=47.5476247&lon=-110.9373665&z=14&l=0&m=s&v=9
Detentions! Ha... Well, to the rest of the world, I guess the word would be dimensions. All thumbs here...
I was looking at Hilger MT today on Google Maps, with it's lonely red grain elevator, on the Roy Branch of the NMD. Roy had a wye as well, but its not nearly as defined as Hilger. The wye is to the left of the picture. At the time I took this picture I was unaware the wye was over there, otherwise I would have stopped.
That bottom picture, with the elevator- Would much of the wye be visible from the ground? Or have plows surely started making inroads? Boxcab E50
Ken The ROW looks unmolested with the exception of a mobile home that has moved in. I don't think it would jump out at you by just driving by. You would have to know it was out there. The culverts are the ROW. You can move around the area by clicking here.
One thing which I've found to be fun- Older USGS maps. Not just for finding tracks now long gone, but for seeing the terrain contours. Sitting back to imagine those survey and engineering plans which preceeded laying rails. Then following a line such as in the Roy area. Fascinating. You really can get a feel for the RR pioneers experiences. Boxcab E50
Agreed, one would think a straight line to Roy would do it. But if you follow the ROW on Google maps it twisted and turned like a snake, following a small drainage most of the way. But we all know the east side of Montana is anything but flat.
I'm back! Over the 4th of July weekend, I went camping west of Augusta, in Sun Canyon. On the way out, we went thru Choteau, and saw some MILW-related sights there. The Choteau MILW freight house: The depot is the community center: And a feather switchstand in downtown near the depot (picture quality sucks, as this was a zoomed-in moving vehicle shot):