Frame Issues

mtaylor Jun 2, 2000

  1. mtaylor

    mtaylor Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Well it happened. I totatly screwed up one of my locomotives. I was in the processing of converting my Kato BN SD45 loco to DCC. I soldered everything OK and was ready to start rebuilding the loco. I was using a Digiframe from Southern Digital. This was my first use of the Digiframe......boy does it Su*k. There was lots of flash on the frame with filled in holes for the motor cradle. Speaking of the motor cradle, the frame was so messed up that the motor cradle would not even stay in the frame. Then with no force being used the frame snapped like a twig. These frames are complete crap!!! These guys have been great to deal with on other items. I will contact them and see how they deal with this. Then I did someting really stupid. I thought I could mill the original frame myself via a dremmel tool. I screwed up. So now I have a SD45 DCC ready loco with no frame. Does anyone know where I can find a KATO quality SD45 frame? I will be checking with Aztec....Now I know to stay away from digiframes.

    a upset and ticked MATT
     
  2. sd75mac

    sd75mac Guest

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    Well Matt. I heard that one can solder the "crap" [​IMG] frame together. Don't know if it really works. I think you are screwed!. I believe Kato does not sell just the frames and John from Aztec cannot supply you with one. He does a one-2-one swap. You give him a SD45 frame and he returns a milled frame. I've visited with John and saw his operation. It is really first class (no Dremels used at Aztec).



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  3. rray

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    If it was a clean break, maybe someone with a resistance soldering unit can fix it. Or how about that TIX low temp solder that works on all metals except aluminum? I feel for you, cause I have 2 ruined frames in my junk box too! Both are Atlas RS-11's, and both now have Kato RS-2 Mechianisms in them. Anybody want to buy 2 undecorated RS-2 shells?

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  4. BC Rail King

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    Inspired me to stay away from them! In fact I was actually about to get one of there frames. I have used Aztek, and I liked it, it was easy to use, and gave a really good weight to the locomotive.

    Happy Railroading!

    Dane N.

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  5. mtaylor

    mtaylor Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    John from Aztec confirmed what has been said here....no frames available. I contacted Southern Digital and they asked me to send the busted up pile of junk to them (the broken digiframe) and they will send me a new one. They said the frames are brittle to prevent bending and warping. They just seem weak to me. My new plan of attack is to use EXTEREME CAUTION while performing the install. If this fails, I will probably send my loco (in parts) to Southern Digital to have them assemble it for me. In the future, I will use Aztec. I have two other SD45 locos (UP) that were milled by Aztec. I bought them via the web from a hobby shop in California (off of http://nscalauction.com ). These run great. I will let you all know how this turns out. I guess the worse case scenero is that I would have to shell out cash for another SD45 and swap parts. Geeez, this stinks!

    Matt
     
  6. sd75mac

    sd75mac Guest

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    Matt, John from Aztec will mill your frame to fit a DN140 (with all those tiny little wires) [​IMG] or a DN146A (Plug n Pray) [​IMG] . With the Dn146A, only two wires to the motor needs to be soldered for action. To me that's the easiest way. I have 4 SD45's using the DN146A frame.

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  7. mtaylor

    mtaylor Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Harolod, I wish I had my original fram in good condition. I basicly cut of the weight that the fuel cover snaps onto. This is how I screwed up my Kato frame. The fuel cover no longer wants to stay in place. I will try the digframe again and see what happens. Maybe I will end buying another SD45 and swap parts with it....seems like a huge waste to me. Hopefully I can get the digiframe to work. What about other people who have used digiframe replacement for SD45 locos, how can I find these people and buy off their old Kato frames?

    The saga continues.......
     
  8. chessie

    chessie TrainBoard Supporter

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mtaylor:
    Maybe I will end buying another SD45 and swap parts with it....seems like a huge waste to me. Hopefully I can get the digiframe to work. What about other people who have used digiframe replacement for SD45 locos, how can I find these people and buy off their old Kato frames?

    The saga continues.......
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Try posting a Want To Buy (WTB) on some of the various forums... you may luck out and find someone with some extras in their parts box.

    Chessie
     
  9. mtaylor

    mtaylor Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    John from Aztec found a stock frame for me and will mill it for me. He is charging a small fee for the frame and the usual for the milling. I gotta tell ya, this kind of service is top notch and rates a huge A+ in my book!!!! Harold, I wish I would have taken your advice before. BTW, I am having it milled for the DN146A as you have done.

    Oh happy days!!
    Matt
     
  10. sd75mac

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    Doggone that John Claudino. He just keeps coming thru with his magic! Well Matt, I'm happy things worked out for you. Next take a look at a FRED car from John. I have one and am very pleased.

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