I did a little more the past couple evenings when I had a chance. I'm happy with how the ground goop is working out. It is thick in a couple spots but it is drying well with no shrinking or cracking. Logging loco, Your welcome Never to old to learn something new. I'm still not sure how to do that on my phone. I still have to use the computer. After some more thinking and looking at your ideas I think I'll go this route. I'll reroute the road the add a small gravel service road at the end. The stream will come off the mountain out of a fissure in the rocks. We have a place like that near where I live, It's called the lost river. It's a very strong spring that come right out of the rocks, it's pretty impressive, no one knows where the water is coming from. I'm going to attempt to model that. We'll see how that goes. You guys are being helpful! My brain doesn't work as well as I wish. I've suffered with CFS for a couple years. I'm better than I was and this hobby has been good for that. I have to take life at a slower pace while I work on recovery.