SP/SSW F-1 2-10-2 pictures needed

Does anyone have some pictures of the SP's F-1s. I'm working a kitbash and need some references. I would prefer some from the transition era as opposed to pre-war.

 

I don't know much about SP steam. Do you know what number series these wore?
Then I can take a look and see if I got any pics.

 

The road numbers were 3600-3610. TNO had some as well, just not sure if their modifications were the same over the lifetime of the engine as the SP. I've got a CC 2-10-2 I'm going to chop into an F unit, just not sure which series. The USRA is closer to something the SP had than that of the Santa Fe as far as overall appearance. Thanks for your help

 

Well, I don't have any but here is the only one I found on Richard Percy's site:
http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/steam-02/3618_sp-steam-f01-gene_deimling.jpg
Hope it helps.

 

Unfortunatly, that is the only pic I have been able to find as well. I think I'll have to find the Monte Vista book of 2-10-2s.

 

F1s: numbers and photo here: http://tinyurl.com/dd99pj

If you haven't seen Richard Percy's site, and you're into the SP, then it's a must (it's the above URL).

Also, if you are into SP steam, then Guy Dunscomb's "A Century of SP Steam Locomotives" is an absolute must. Out of print but quite obtainable.

Phil

[EDIT: Amazing how many replies can come in while you're writing a post, isn't it! :^) There are more photos in Dunscomb's book, and a couple in the SP Shasta Division book, too. ]

 

Some more stuff, all on the first 3 pages of a google search...

There are preserved T&NO F-1s:

975
2-10-2
F-1: Illinois Ry Museum; Union, IL
982
2-10-2
F-1: restored by Texas Railroad Preservation Association; 600 block of Avenida de las Americas, Houston, Texas

Key says they're planning a brass run of F's (though they don't state exactly which ones).

I've never heard of this book: http://tinyurl.com/c6gkfj but I just ordered a copy!

 

Here's a pic of F-1 #3629
http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/SP3629.JPG

Mike N.

 

Only one I have. This shot was on the El Paso turntable ( late 40's , early 50's ? ? ? ).

 

Actually, the Pacific Lines F-1's were #'s 3600-3652. #3600 was actually classed as F-2 when built as she had 57" drivers and 26 1/2 x 32 inch cylinders. She was rebuilt in 1920 to F-1 specs (63" drivers, 27 x 32 inch cylinders - source Southern Pacific Steam Pictorial Volume II )

The USRA heavy is actually closer in overall size to SP's F-3 thru F-5 classes. However, to accommodate large flanges with scale sized drivers, Con-Cor stretched the USRA which has the visual effect of slimming down the boiler, so you probably could make a loco which looks a lot like the F-1.

Here's a pic of T&NO #982 on a flatbed. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=161735


Mike N.

 

Thanks for all of the replies. I'm still debating on which loco to model. I see some retained the USRA type trailing truck, and some have the delta type. does anyone know when they were updated with the BL feedwater heaters? Carl's photo of 3659 looks promising, just wondering if it was ever fitted with a BL later in life like the TNO 973. If not, then the CC with a vandy tender added would be a close approximation.