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jtomstarr May 24, 2021

  1. jtomstarr

    jtomstarr TrainBoard Member

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    I have a Friend which belongs to the train club here in GF, NY I offered some of my magazine collection to them due to a move, he told me almost everything can be found on line these days .. I am , was Disappointed to hear this that he would not except the magazines from a member! I state Not Everything Is Available ONLINE ! If this is the case then we wouldn't have Any PUBLIC LIBRARIES etc.
    Just an observation ..

    Tom
     
  2. Shortround

    Shortround TrainBoard Member

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    Clubs should have there own libraries. It's not all in public facilities.
    But then there are reasons.
     
  3. JMaurer1

    JMaurer1 TrainBoard Member

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    This may be true for some mainstream items that have a very wide appeal, but for specialized things, such as hobbies, especially railroading (model and prototype) this just isn't true. I have a ton of railroad VHS videos that I bought back in the day and wished I could still watch but try to find any of them online...nope. Even the DVD's...I had to buy a DVD player because my last two computers didn't come with one anymore so I could watch the DVD's and access my copy of the NGSL magazine archive. I have a ton (literally, at least 2000 lbs) of old railroad magazines (that I have donated to the club that meets in my garage so they really aren't mine...no really) and every now and then I need to look up an article...not all of the magazines are on Train Life (only magazines that are out of print and TL have lost their data base more than once). I WISH more prototype railroad information was online but even the historical societies that I'm a member of don't have even a fraction of their info online. Some of the best prototype books are nowhere to be found online, even if they are out of print (which only makes it worse).

    People have just accepted that if the data doesn't easily exist online, then it doesn't exist and this is a bad thing. Whoever you were talking with is a fool.
     
  4. Bookbear1

    Bookbear1 TrainBoard Supporter

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    As a retired reference librarian of 35 years experience... libraries are so much more than repositories of the printed word.

    Google can find you 10,000 answers. A librarian can find you the right one.
     
  5. ggnlars

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    The dynamics of the day play into this conversation. Not everything has been put up on line. However, the stuff that hasn’t clearly has limited interest. The more interest, the more hits on the site. That usually translates into a monetary benefit.
    Libraries were not judged on that basis. It also took more skill to find the answer.
    One problem with what is on line is a lack of editing & verification. Things can & are published by individuals with out any other approval. He may believe the story, but it may not be true.
    A benefit & a drawback with the online communication is that it rapidly spreads different ways to do a similar thing.
    Model railroad building techniques from 50 years ago have been changed several times over the years due to various factors. the online search will identify options that have been discussed in recent months where a library search is likely to be limited to things that were written about 3-5 years ago. Both may be of equal value, but the more recent is usually the best.
     
  6. Inkaneer

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    One thing missing these days and it is just not missing only on line but in printed form also, is good grammar. Words like to, too and two as well as accept or except, affect and effect, who or which and others are often misused. The short cuts occasioned by texting only add to the confusion. I am seeing words misused in golf magazines as well as some of the model railroad ones. And just try to read the instructions on some product made overseas. I sent a drone I bought on Ebay back to the shipper because the instructions were unintelligible.
     
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  7. acptulsa

    acptulsa TrainBoard Member

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    So, the internet is omniscient and eternal now? We can all throw away our hard copy backups?



    I think I disagree.
     
  8. JMaurer1

    JMaurer1 TrainBoard Member

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    See, not everything is online:

    Video Unavailable
     
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    To or too, or effect or affect, I've never been able to keep those straight . . . or is it strait . . . (Expletive Deleted) English!!

    For every rule in grammar and spelling, there are two exceptions, and for every exception there are two rules.
     
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  10. acptulsa

    acptulsa TrainBoard Member

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    If you always use the word also, you'll never, ever use the word too. That would keep them straight. And keep you out of dire straits.

    Affect is a verb. You do it. An effect is a noun, a thing. In alphabetical order, to affect something is to have an effect on it.

    I'm amazed how often I see allot replacing a lot. I see people do that a lot, but I don't want my allotment of it.
     
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  11. porkypine52

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    And I also believe that EVERYTHING I see/read online is REAL and HONEST. I own several Railroad bridges, The Brooklyn Bridge and a NASA Probe Landing Site on MARS..................
     
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  12. BoxcabE50

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    What? No ocean front property in South Dakota? You have really missed out! :ROFLMAO::p
     
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  13. steve64d

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    My "word" pet peeve is "could of".
    So we've gone from "could have" to it's contraction of "could've" to the pronunciation of the contraction.
    I tell myself that this is just folks using a voice app instead of typing their message, with the app literally typing what it heard. But then I came across a comment where someone (acting as a grammar police in a thread that had nothing to do with grammar) was saying "could have" should of been "could of". I would of said something but decided it was best to ignore it. :whistle:

    This nit-pick from a dyslexic, multi generation Texan who was half raised in Florida. I reckon I ain't got me no grammer. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. sidney

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    youstacould now theres a werd fer ya. :D and ifn y'all dont want them thar books (er) mags just send them my way. I'll build a dab bern liberry :ROFLMAO:
     
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  15. umtrr-author

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    One word:
    Incentivize.

    No, that is not a word. "Incent" is the verb.

    For this and more, we now bring you a Mr. Yankovic:

     
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    OK, back on topic...

    If the magazines were Railroad Model Craftsman or anything else that came from Carstens Publications, I can state that they are NOT "online" and probably will never be "online." Same for Rail Classics and Railroad Modeler, from Challenge Publications.

    Furthermore, the DVD of Model Railroader leaves a LOT to be desired, resolution-wise. I say this as the owner of a TV that doubles as a 32 inch PC monitor on which the print is still blurry at time.
     
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  17. Rich_S

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    We both know that, but have you ever tried to give away a Railroad Model Craftsman magazine collection? Someone else already beat me to my local Model Railroad Club. I even tried my local library and they didn't want the magazines. I haven't looked at those magazines in ages and sadly because of life events I did not have room for my collection which dated back to December 1970 at my current address, so off to the recycle center they all went, RMC, MR and Model Railroading.
     
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  18. Charlie Vlk

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    My wife was a business reference librarian. She increasingly found that patrons didn’t care if it was a Correct Answer, just if it was from the internet (Holy of Holies) and was instantly provided. They did not care if the answer had attribution and didn’t want to know what they didn’t know.
    Good luck finding a library that maintains anything like technology that doesn’t relate to the “humanities’. I called a library in a railroad town and the only history they had was on migrant section labor camps.
    Charlie Vlk
     
  19. NorsemanJack

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    I downsized significantly two years ago. Nobody wants our stuff, even nice furniture and household items. Used magazines? Forget about it....
     
  20. Inkaneer

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    My son never liked an English course throughout his academic years. So when, in college, he had to take an English composition course he elected to take it at summer school at a community college. That way the grade would be a "K" and he would get credit for taking the course but the grade would not affect his Grade Point Average. So he writes his composition on the Savings and Loan crisis in the 1980's. I tell him specifically to proof read the paper to make sure the spelling was correct and let me see it before he submits it to his professor. Does he do that? NOPE! He uses spell check on the computer turns in the paper and gives me a copy. I read it and am horrified. Savings and Loans has become Savings and Moans. Moans is a proper word and the spell check feature let it go by. There are other examples of words that are substituted by other proper words but have no place in the context of the paper. I told him he would be lucky if he got a "D" on the paper. His professor gave him an "A-". I could not believe it.
     
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