Was there anywhere in the 1950's that you would see ATSF, DRG&W, and SP trains in the general area? Thanks, Loco1999
Espee did not reach Chicago until 1985-1990 or so. Denver? Better yet Kansas City or St Louis? Somewhere in the midwest. Iowa? Oklahoma City?
I think you may be out of luck. D&RGW only went as far east as Denver and as far west as Salt Lake City. You would see D&RGW and ATSF operating in the same area on the "Joint Line" running between Denver and Pueblo. Missouri Pacific connected with the D&RGW at Pueblo and the Western Pacific connected with the D&RGW at Salt Lake City. Colorado & Southern and UP were in the Denver area. I don't think you'd see the SP in the same area as the D&RGW in the 50's. In the 50's you didn't have pooled power like you do now and rarely did you see foreign power on the home roads trackage, at least on the D&RGW which I'm familiar with. Now the SP and D&RGW merged in 1988 so by the early '90s you would see power from all three railroads mixed on the Joint Line, a really pretty area of Colorado by the way. Erik W
The Southern Pacific and the Rio Grande both served Salt Lake City-Ogden from the 1890's on. The Rio Grande and the Santa Fe fought a shooting war for the Tennessee Pass in the 1870's which the Rio Grande won. But there were no points served by all three in the 1950's.
Closest you've got might be the joint line - Colorado Springs - Denver. That covers ATSF and DRGW. DRGW and SP in Ogden, UT... At the risk of being corrected I can't think of one place where they all three connected.
Thanks for the info guys. I guess it was just wishful thinking. I have some ATSF equipment, a DRG&W loco, and a SP Loco. I guess I will pick one to keep and one to sell, So I will end up in CO or AZ... Thanks Again, Loco1999
Did the D&RGW or ATSF go to Tucumcari? The SP connected with the CRI&P there, but I do not know if the other two went there. D&RGW narrow gauge went there, maybe? If the other two went there, you could have them and add the CRI&P.
You could just pretend that there was a short connecter line somewhere and use them all. Call it poetic license if you want.
I'll have to get one of those poetic licenses. I could run ATSF and DRG&W or ATSF and SP. Whatever your in the mood for. Loco1999 The more locos the better.
Modeller's license?? Didn't D&RGW reach east of Denver? They had trains that originated east of the Mile-High city....
D&RGW never did go east of Denver. The railroad served as a bridge route for a lot of east-west traffic...this is probably why some trains showed as originating east of Denver. The D&RGW did come up next to the AT&SF in one other place...Santa Fe, NM. However, the D&RGW in this location was the "Chili" line that came down into town from the north, and it was always steam powered up until the end. The D&RGW system only ran two lines any significant distance into New Mexico, the Santa Fe branch and the Farmington Branch (I'm not counting the Antonito-Durange mainline that hugged the Colorado-New Mexico border between those two points, crossing back and forth between the two states numerous times). The D&RGW's Santa Fe branch was always narrow gauge, while the Farmington branch was constructed as a standard gauge line but later converted to narrow gauge. It had to be one of the few railroad lines around where standard gauge equipment had to be ferried in on narrow gauge equipment to conduct operations. The Farmington branch was initially constructed as standard gauge because either the SP or Santa Fe (I don't remember which) was thinking about extending a line into the area, and the D&RGW built the line to head that threat off. It remained as standard gauge for a few years before being converted to narrow gauge. JDLX Elko, NV
They ended up getting trackage rights as far east as Kansas City in the early 80's, as compensation for one of UP's mergers, I think the MP one, that removed lots of Tennessee Pass traffic. Doesn't help in terms of a 50's layout though.
