Märklin E8 Question

markm Dec 3, 2015

  1. markm

    markm TrainBoard Supporter

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    The Märklin E8 documentation shows an image without a nose coupler (technically, a retracted coupler) but the diagrams and spare parts don't show that option. Could someone who owns a unit tell me if that version of the pilot actually ships?

    Mark
     
  2. z.scale.hobo

    z.scale.hobo TrainBoard Member

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    Mark:

    I have pulled in a few Marklin E9's SoPac and have one fully documented on my product page:
    http://zscalehobo.com/marklin/88628.html

    The optional pilot has a knuckle-type dummy coupler on it. I have a photo showing it but it isn't entirely clear, as I was not able to open the plastic bag.

    Regards,
    Frank Daniels
    Owner - z.scale.hobo
     
  3. SJ Z-man

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    Yep ! And, they fit SOOoooooo perfectly, you can't find the seam ! Looks like a one-piece shell !
     
  4. markm

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    The look that I'm going for is the doors closed: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2400019
    The Märklin marketing image (top of Frank's page) suggested a they might have done such a pilot.
    I've got the dimensions of the cover and I think I can make it to pop into the dummy coupler hole, so I guess I've got a new snow day project.

    I've got an AZL A/B set and I have to agree they look so good. Also they run so smoothly. It's the first loco I've purchased that I feel deserves to get DCC.

    Thank,
    Mark
     
  5. z.scale.hobo

    z.scale.hobo TrainBoard Member

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    Hi Mark:

    At 41s in this video

    you see the coupler is a knuckle-type. I believe it is a dummy. The prototype image was a one-time deal, if I recall, and the smooth appearance is not how they were released. They include a dummy coupler just like the AZL release.

    Frank Daniels
    z.scale.hobo
     
  6. SJ Z-man

    SJ Z-man TrainBoard Member

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    The coupler is like the Mikado. Limited angle (very short shank, pressed in). If you run 220mm, with body mounted couplers, might work. If you run the larger 12-18 radii that many of us have on the Z-Bend Track modules, they're OK.
     
  7. z.scale.hobo

    z.scale.hobo TrainBoard Member

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    Right; so there IS a coupler.

    Mark was wondering why (a very good question) the original photo shows a closed pilot with no coupler:
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  8. sumgai

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    What is the minimum radius curve for the Marklin E8? 195mm? The Marklin database catalog entry does not provide this information.
     
  9. ViperBugloss

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    The Marklin 88628 that I have comes with an additional truck without a coupler and an additional body fairing (I do not know the technical name).

    As for the curve radius, I am currently running one on a folded dogbone test track, using Rokuhan track with curve radii of 220 mm, 195 mm, and 170 mm.

    2015-10-23.jpg

    I tried it on a curve radius of 120 mm. It sort of ran, in that it did not derail but was very jerky.

    2014-08-01.jpg

    (As an aside, the new Rokuhan/Noch locomotives run very smoothly on this layout.)

    Rob Pearce (aka ViperBugloss)
     
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  10. markm

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    Rob,
    Thanks for the info. As far as the minimum turning radius, I don't expect the model to do any better than the prototype. The E8/9 did a 57 degree curve (roughly 130 mm) so your data fits what I would have expected. Also I would have been very surprised that Märklin would have participated in the E units if they didn't reliably do 145mm.
    Mark
     
  11. ddechamp71

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    One can't say the AZL Mikado's front coupler is dummy. I don't know for low radii but on my layout (minimum radius 35 cm / 14") I easily MU my Mike behind my GS4, and I suffer no parasite uncoupling nor derailments.

    Dom
     
  12. zfuture

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    Pilot and Coupler question. The original Marklin (and AZL) photos showed prototypes with a fixed pilots. We decided to make an add on pilot instead featuring both (generic) freight and passenger style pilots. Based on feedback, we also added a "dummy" coupler to the pilot. Sincerely, Hans (AZL)
     

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